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witchiepoo 10th Jul 2023 22:21

Drunk Cabin Crew delay flight - arrested?!?
 
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Anyone know anything about this flight….somewhere in Scandinavia?!?

NWCoast 10th Jul 2023 23:05


Originally Posted by witchiepoo (Post 11465247)
Anyone know anything about this flight….somewhere in Scandinavia?!?

AirSerbia OSL - BEG July 10th.

3 Cabin crew onboard, 1 arrested with a blood alcohol level of 1.0

Pax numbers reduced and flight departed with 2 cabin crew operating.

meleagertoo 11th Jul 2023 09:41

For info, because I hadn't a clue what 1.0 means and I doubt many others do either;

BAC level 1.0‰ BAC
Standard alcoholic drinks Five
Typical general effects Clear deterioration of reaction time and control, slurred speech, poor coordination, slowed thinking

netstruggler 11th Jul 2023 11:30


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11465487)
For info, because I hadn't a clue what 1.0 means and I doubt many others do either;

BAC level 1.0‰ BAC
Standard alcoholic drinks Five
Typical general effects Clear deterioration of reaction time and control, slurred speech, poor coordination, slowed thinking

I think the UK limit for driving a car would be 0.8% on that scale.

Snyggapa 11th Jul 2023 11:40


Originally Posted by netstruggler (Post 11465547)
I think the UK limit for driving a car would be 0.8% on that scale.

I think you are out by a factor of 10 here - 0.08%

So having a BAC of 1.0% is actually "quite merry" if my maths are right...

DaveReidUK 11th Jul 2023 12:31


Originally Posted by Snyggapa (Post 11465549)
I think you are out by a factor of 10 here - 0.08%

So having a BAC of 1.0% is actually "quite merry" if my maths are right...

It's 50 times the Norwegian limit (0.02%) for aircrew.

netstruggler 11th Jul 2023 13:02


Originally Posted by Snyggapa (Post 11465549)
I think you are out by a factor of 10 here - 0.08%

So having a BAC of 1.0% is actually "quite merry" if my maths are right...

Sorry yes. I was thinking the limit was 80mg / litre rather than per 100ml.

NOC40 11th Jul 2023 16:20


Originally Posted by Snyggapa (Post 11465549)
I think you are out by a factor of 10 here - 0.08%

So having a BAC of 1.0% is actually "quite merry" if my maths are right...

But I think 1.0 BAC is 1 per 1000, ie 0.1%. 0.4% is considered fatal

grizzled 11th Jul 2023 16:22


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11465487)
For info, because I hadn't a clue what 1.0 means and I doubt many others do either;

BAC level 1.0‰ BAC
Standard alcoholic drinks Five
Typical general effects Clear deterioration of reaction time and control, slurred speech, poor coordination, slowed thinking


No, there is confusion here regarding the decimal point. The number of drinks and the effects you mention would be associated with a BAC of .1%, not 1%. With a BAC of 1% most people are comatose.

tdracer 11th Jul 2023 17:26


Originally Posted by grizzled (Post 11465669)
No, there is confusion here regarding the decimal point. The number of drinks and the effects you mention would be associated with a BAC of .1%, not 1%. With a BAC of 1% most people are comatose.

Ah, not comatose - dead. I doubt even a hard core alcoholic would survive a 1.0% blood alcohol content.

grizzled 11th Jul 2023 18:41


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 11465698)
Ah, not comatose - dead. I doubt even a hard core alcoholic would survive a 1.0% blood alcohol content.

tdr, I agree. I originally intended to write "dead", then found many cases (via google) wherein people have survived with a BAC well over 1%. But I'm sure you're correct for most cases. Maybe a good way to describe the effects of 1% BAC would be "at best comatose, very likely dead". In any case, the above mentioned crew member was most likely measured as ".1%" in which case the person was clearly intoxicated.

DaveReidUK 11th Jul 2023 22:41


Originally Posted by NOC40 (Post 11465667)
But I think 1.0 BAC is 1 per 1000, ie 0.1%. 0.4% is considered fatal

BAC (blood alcohol content/concentration) is a dimensionless quantity, usually expressed as a ratio or percentage.

So while a BAC of 1 in 1000 (i.e. 0.1%) makes sense, simply quoting BAC = 1.0 is meaningless.

bobbytables 12th Jul 2023 15:50


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 11465487)
For info, because I hadn't a clue what 1.0 means and I doubt many others do either;

BAC level 1.0‰ BAC
Standard alcoholic drinks Five
Typical general effects Clear deterioration of reaction time and control, slurred speech, poor coordination, slowed thinking

many preceding posters have failed to pay close attention to the symbol after the 1.0 in the above-quoted post. It is a per mille symbol, not a percent symbol, where mille means thousand.

1.0‰ blood alcohol is 0.1% blood alcohol.

carry on…


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