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atakacs 4th Jun 2023 06:51


Originally Posted by Flying Clog (Post 11444392)
Having operated for an Asian based airline for 2 decades, and witnessed the shenanigans that go on, particularly with China, and literally anything it produces or attempts to develop.... the acid test, as always, has to be, would you put your family on a Chinese built jet operated by Chinese crew.

The answer to that has to be, an emphatic no way!

Maybe not today but 10-20 years from now quite likekly

ATC Watcher 4th Jun 2023 08:07


Originally Posted by megan (Post 11445425)
one I found among the thousands was for hydraulic powered controls, first used on the P-38 ailerons. As for infringement, patents do lapse.

Yes they do, but , to be pedantic.on who was fist, it was not the P38, the hydraulic powered flight controls were invented and patented by Rene Leduc in France in 1937 and first used on its first ramjet fighter (Leduc 010)
The patent continued long after the manufacturer stopped its aircraft production in 1958 and it brought steady revenue to the the company for many decades.afrerwards. ( source Rene Leduc biography)

Asturias56 4th Jun 2023 08:58


Originally Posted by neville_nobody (Post 11445180)
Isn’t this thing just a flying Patent Infringement?


People (mainly in the USA) said that about Airbus when they started out

pithblot 4th Jun 2023 09:23

MENELAUS

You’re damn tooting.
Brevity.

I like it.

Propellerhead 4th Jun 2023 16:17

It looks a nice aircraft on the face of it. The flight deck seems to have copied bits from both Airbus and Boeing and the avionics are supplied from the west. The side stick is pure Airbus obviously but the MCP panel looks more Boeing.

Does anyone have an English FCOM for it? Be interested to know how far the FBW has gone - does the pilot retain full authority or is it more Airbus? Looks like the thrust levers move unlike Airbus?

I suspect it may turn out to be decently safe but think I’d wait a couple of years before making a judgement.

newscaster 4th Jun 2023 16:43

Comac 919 trip review
 
Possibly the first review https://youtu.be/nAwtVWwqnW0

CargoOne 5th Jun 2023 11:49


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher (Post 11443843)
Besides Ethiopian and (former) South African who esle in Africa is buying new jet transports from manufacturers? For the reasons explained by WideScreen I do not think C919s will see the light of Africa until they become old and cheaply available.

You would be surprised but actually there are many. African carriers have placed 305 orders since 2010, 40 different carriers. Obviously it is less than RYR alone but it is still a number.

GlobalNav 5th Jun 2023 18:34


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 11445463)
Maybe not today but 10-20 years from now quite likekly

I suppose we’ll see, won’t we? It’s not that the Chinese are incapable of great engineering, innovation, or safety. It’s that they prefer to fake it, instead.

Toggerobs 5th Jun 2023 20:55

No surprise that Noel Philips over on youtube has managed to get a ride on the C919






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