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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11379554)
Er, doesn't that normally rely on there being someone on board to do the necessary ?
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Originally Posted by Matt2725
(Post 11379407)
They did destroy a satellite in orbit with an F-15 once, so not out of the question.
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
(Post 11379569)
Why would you need a person to release gas or ballast? Seems like it would be a simple servo design operation a valve or actuator.
Are you suggesting that the balloon is being controlled remotely from Beijing ? Or that the entire mission is being performed autonomously, presumably to follow a pre-defined track (otherwise there wouldn't be any point in having a manoeuvring capability) ? Occam's Razor says it's going where the wind has blown it. :O |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11379588)
Occam's Razor says it's going where the wind has blown it. :O
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See other thread, bang, self-destructed or shot down.
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
(Post 11379629)
See other thread, bang, self-destructed or shot down.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11379588)
Commanded by whom, from where ?
Are you suggesting that the balloon is being controlled remotely from Beijing ? Or that the entire mission is being performed autonomously, presumably to follow a pre-defined track (otherwise there wouldn't be any point in having a manoeuvring capability) ? Occam's Razor says it's going where the wind has blown it. :O Besides, they'd want some sort of downlink for the acquired data. |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11379588)
Commanded by whom, from where ?
Are you suggesting that the balloon is being controlled remotely from Beijing ? Or that the entire mission is being performed autonomously, presumably to follow a pre-defined track (otherwise there wouldn't be any point in having a manoeuvring capability) ? Occam's Razor says it's going where the wind has blown it. :O |
Originally Posted by BFSGrad
(Post 11379633)
But the other thread Twitter video allegedly was shot in Billings, MT. Balloon was sighted in Kanas City and then further east toward St. Louis. Does not compute.
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Second spy balloon is reported to be transiting Latin America.
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Originally Posted by BFSGrad
(Post 11379645)
Second spy balloon is reported to be transiting Latin America.
Seriously guys, if any of you were semi ardent FR24 watchers you’d know from time to time ADS-B positions of high altitude balloons (FL600 or above) were displayed, often several at a time. This is no new thing. What We Know About The High-Altitude Balloons Recently Lingering Off America’s Coastlines I think just because the word “China” has been mentioned has sent everyone into a panic. |
A look at HISTORY: In the 1990s, a met balloon once went astray over Canada. F16s shot at it, without effect. It crossed the atlantic, went to Finnland after a tiny detour into Russia.
For that, NOTAM were issued. Where are the NOTAM for this balloon ?? |
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"Explosion in the sky" above Montana. According to the daily mail.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-airspace.html |
Are we really suggesting that the object could survive overflight of Montana with 1.1 million gun-totin', MAGA wearin' Good 'Ol Boys with their assault rifles?
My guess is the USAF are looking for a way to retrieve the object intact for maximum intelligence value. When they figure out they can't do that effectively...... then they will shoot it down. |
Originally Posted by meleagertoo
(Post 11379316)
It would be illuminating, if not downright amusing for someone to explain just how Uncle Sam is supoosed to 'down' a balloon. Surveillance balloons tend to fly in the stratosphere way above the service cieling of most, if not all fighters which in any case are not equipped with any weapon that could credibly deflate a balloon. Perhaps a very close (feet away) supersonic pass might do the trick but you'd probably need an X15 or SR71 to get that high - if you were lucky and the balloon was low enough..
If they get an F22 up to it, they just found out what the service ceiling of an F22 is. I met an F4 pilot that had been up to 70,000’ He explained how the engines flame out, and you have to come down a bit to reignite them. I wonder what the service ceiling of an F22 is, I wonder if the Chinese can now tell you. |
"If they get an F22 up to it, they just found out what the service ceiling of an F22 is."
I'm sure they've known that for many years - they have human agents, they listen to what people say in industry forums and bars, they break into people's computers |
kghjfg
I wonder what the service ceiling of an F22 is, |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 11379554)
Er, doesn't that normally rely on there being someone on board to do the necessary ?
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Originally Posted by kghjfg
(Post 11379719)
I met an F4 pilot that had been up to 70,000’
He explained how the engines flame out, and you have to come down a bit to reignite them. |
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