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We saw it on the 21th of DEC enroute from DEL to SZX. I tried to find nearby objects through the Star Walk2 App, but the only thing it showed even remotely close to the lights was a x-ray telescope (Chandra).
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Originally Posted by Flarkey
(Post 11338290)
Er...I'm the one who has provided the science based explainations in this thread! 🤣 👍
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Originally Posted by poppiholla
(Post 11359952)
however the explanations you are referring to are for completely different and commonly seen light and flare patterns. One that is quite normal and easy to identify by it's regular pattern and trajectory, even from the ground. This is something different.
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There is a lot of those Star Link satellites up there now (plus many other independent groups of similar satellites) so is it going to come to the point where whatever is seen, its quite likely it would coincide with one or a bunch of them being quite close anyway? Just posing the question....
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Originally Posted by nuisance79
(Post 11360705)
There is a lot of those Star Link satellites up there now (plus many other independent groups of similar satellites) so is it going to come to the point where whatever is seen, its quite likely it would coincide with one or a bunch of them being quite close anyway? Just a posing the question....
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Is there any examples that you have not been able to map to star-link?
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Originally Posted by nuisance79
(Post 11361802)
Is there any examples that you have not been able to map to star-link?
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Again yesterday flying eastbound over China at ~2130-2200z.
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Originally Posted by bam160
(Post 11366106)
Again yesterday flying eastbound over China at ~2130-2200z.
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Another report of a similar 'ufo' sighting has been obtained by The Black Vault. Seems likely that this is Starlink satellites flaring again....
https://www.theblackvault.com/docume...iple-aircraft/ “They’re Back!”: FAA Air Traffic Control Audio Released of UFO Sightings by Multiple Aircraft – 11/11/22The Black Vault received word of this incident by someone who wishes to remain anonymous, but had access to the FAA database that listed the report. It was sent to The Black Vault in mid November of 2022.From the below, it appears the date and time of the sighting is: 0640 EST / 1140 UTC on 11/11/2022. The text related to the incident, as sent via email to The Black Vault, stated the following: TIME/DATE: 11:38z 11/11/2022 TYPE OF INCIDENT: UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENON: SALT LAKE ARTCC (ZLC), SALT LAKE, UT, (ARTCC) INCIDENT DETAILS: Initial/Closeout Call Sign: UPS834 Aircraft Type: B752 Origin: ONT ONTARIO Destination: BOI BOISE New Destination: N/A Remarks: 0640 EST / 1140 UTC 11/11/2022 UPS834/B752 reported unidentified aerial phenomenon above the aircraft while N-bound at FL360, 74 NM West of Yelland Field VOR/DME (ELY) Ely, NV . The unknown phenomenon was 2-3 white lights circling at approximately FL740. FDX1879 / B763, OAK-SLC, E-bound at FL370 reported the same. ACTIONS/FOLLOW-UP/RECOVERY: N/A DIAGRAM MAP: N/A SOURCE OF INFORMATION: DEN |
I saw this the other night over the Atlantic, my F/O noticed it and I sagely explained it was just starlink satellites flaring.
He asked why the satellites were changing direction as they normally follow a set course. I replied that it’s apparently an optical illusion. It didn’t seem convincing at the the time tbh and they definitely looked like they were changing direction. I’ve been watching satellites pass through the sky for years over the Atlantic and these definitely look like they’re rotating in formation and changing direction. |
Originally Posted by nuisance79
(Post 11360705)
There is a lot of those Star Link satellites up there now (plus many other independent groups of similar satellites) so is it going to come to the point where whatever is seen, its quite likely it would coincide with one or a bunch of them being quite close anyway? Just posing the question....
My wife asked me accusingly, why I just liked girl’s photo on Facebook. There was definitely some starlink satellites flaring nearby so I said it was that, that she saw and used an astronomy website to prove it scientifically. She said what she saw (me liking a photo) didn’t look like starlink satellites following a set path and flaring so I said it’s just an optical illusion. Yay science! |
Extraordinary until proven otherwise
Still in the "likely starlink" camp, but glad that everyone is happy to report these strange light shows. The more observations the more data to rule it in or out |
There is a pair of satellites which have an unusual flight path. As I first understood it they each fly a helical path, revolving as a pair in a helix around a shared orbit. Stuff I've just read implies that one flies a normal orbit but the other has a helical path around the former. In the right circumstances I can imagine they'd catch the eye.
https://earth.esa.int/eogateway/miss...x-and-tandem-x Perhaps someone more familiar with interpreting orbits could work out if these could have been in the areas mentioned. (There may be others operating in the same way, but I heard about these particular ones at the time of their launch). |
Another selection of audio, this time from CONUS. Numerous aircraft reporting bright and 'orbiting' lights near the eastern horizon just before dawn. These are again flaring Starlink Satellites.
Note that on this video the playback of the FlightRadar24 is about 35mins behind the audio. (click here if you want to see the details) so the planes reporting the lights were a few hundred miles east of where they appear to be. |
Another reported sighting of similar objects, this time over northern Canada:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/we-re...-lights-near-yellowknife-in-january-1.6277389 We're not crazy': Listen to a flight report unusual lights near Yellowknife in January:Air traffic controllers and an approaching flight couldn't identify "two white lights … moving in a circular pattern" that were reported over Yellowknife late at night on Jan. 29."Good evening, just wondering, do you got two planes that are just to the east of your field doing circuits or manoeuvres?" a crew member aboard a Canadian North flight from Fort McMurray, Alta., to Yellowknife, N.W.T., asked as it approached the city in northern Canada around 11:15 p.m. local time. "Negative, I have no reported traffic in the area," an air traffic controller in Yellowknife replied. "Do you have a visual on something?" "Yeah, we're looking at two lights dancing around here, to the east of your field," the crew of the twin turboprop Canadian North aircraft said. "They're above us, about, I don't know what. We're not seeing them on TCAS (traffic collision avoidance system). But we can see the lights moving around." I don't have anything on the radar either. Let me talk to centre," the tower responded, likely referring to a flight information centre or flight control centre. A moment later, the air traffic controller was back on the radio. "Hey, centre doesn’t have anything about any movement in the area, so I'm really wondering what you're seeing there," they said. "Yeah, so are we," the flight answered. "All right, I'm trying to look," air traffic control said, likely peering out of a tower window. "I don't see them from the ground here. Well, I'll keep an eye out. I'll talk with centre again." "Yeah, no worries," the crew replied. "They're not a risk to us." Based in the Ottawa suburb Kanata, Canadian North services multiple destinations across northern Canada. As the flight got closer to Yellowknife, the Canadian North crew described seeing the lights "moving around in a circular pattern" well above them, approximately 20 kilometres northwest of the airport. "We'll talk on the ground," the air traffic controller said. "I'll file a CIRVIS report – this is when we have some sightings that we cannot explain." Civilian air traffic control in Canada is operated by the private company Nav Canada. According to Nav Canada aviation guidelines, CIRVIS reports – short for "Communication Instructions for Reporting Vital Intelligence Sightings" – should be made "immediately upon a vital intelligence sighting of any airborne and ground objects or activities that appear to be hostile, suspicious, unidentified or engaged in possible illegal smuggling activity." Nav Canada even puts "unidentified flying objects" at the front of a list of "vital intelligence sighting" examples, which also include "submarines, or surface warships identified as being non-Canadian or non-American." The air traffic controller comes back on the radio again to ask what colour the lights are. "White," is the reply. "Roger, thanks." There's then a pause before the crew member comes back on the radio to say, "We're not crazy." "No, we believe you." Initial investigation has shown that the conditions of this sighting again match those for the Starlink Satellites https://www.metabunk.org/threads/why...20/post-287694 https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....16cc1e069d.jpg |
Great video here of the 'lightshow' taken flying east over Oklahoma in the early hours of 18 April. These are all Starlink satellites glinting sunlight.
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I agree with the above video. But that is not what we see (nor is it what we talk about....). We see 1 light then 2, then 3. 2 lights circling around 1 light. then 1 light disappears to the right and 1 light circlies around the other. That light disappers. then 1 light remains and goes down up left right. left for a long shot and then right. its not a constant movement. the lights in the video do NOT do that. If it was just left to right... yea we all would agree it is satellites.... but it isn't.
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To be fare, mick and Flarky are pro ‘debunkers’ mick even features on the history channel here and there……their probably never going to claim ‘we dont know what it is yet.
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