China Airlines 747F damages two engines at ORD
With a dozen or more containers as collateral damage ...
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2e85497c24.jpg ADS-B track would suggest it diverged by about 45 m from the taxiway across the SE Cargo Ramp at O'Hare on arrival. https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/...lane-at-ohare/ |
If the video is normal speed, that crew was taxiing way too fast given the conditions…notice the cargo can getting injested into the #1 Engine. Wow
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I suspect that the video is showing the event very "speeded up". The time between the two flashes of the top and bottom red flashing beacons is 12.3 seconds in the video, where other videos I find of B747 beacons appear to show the beacon flash period to be just over a second. So the video is maybe ten times actual speed?
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Approx 16 kts at the point where it left the twy centreline, 13 kts at impact, per ADS-B.
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There is a time stamp in the upper left corner and the seconds counter seems normal.
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There is a time stamp in the upper left corner and the seconds counter seems normal. |
Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
(Post 11176974)
My mind is open about the speed of the video, and thus the speed of the 747....
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Taxiing like a rally driver. Expensive mistake
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There is a considerable upslope off S2 into the ramp (see video) and he appeared to be nose high staring into the lights with little or no visibility under the nose and snow covered taxiway markings. Probably had a handful of thrust to get up the slope and the aircraft ran away with them .... if it was 12 knots it would be way too fast under these conditions. Nose wheel might have had little traction with snow and coming off slope and abrupt or excessive tiller would easily have lost any traction that it did have. Body gear activation would have made it worse. Park brake set and tow truck might have been a good option. Easy to say after the event.
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Taking all into account it looks normal speed to me. There is significant 'barreling' of the image due to a rather wide angle lens hence the horizon appears to drop away the further you go way from the centre.
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Originally Posted by Magplug
(Post 11177009)
...looks normal speed to me.
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Originally Posted by Magplug
(Post 11177009)
Taking all into account it looks normal speed to me. There is significant 'barreling' of the image due to a rather wide angle lens hence the horizon appears to drop away the further you go way from the centre.
Originally Posted by andrasz
(Post 11177026)
Normal for a dry taxiway on a clear day...
I think he was talking about the video speed, not the aircraft speed.... |
The last frames show a service vehicle rapidly reversing and hitting some containers. Hard to blame the rampie in urgent survival mode.
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Looking at the liked news article “Cargo truck collided with plane”
huh? That’s like saying tree collided with car wrt to this incident. |
My guess……..it was not the snow that was particularly slippery. I suspect that there was smooth ice that had formed at the gate at some point, perhaps very recently. Then snow fell on top of it. Meanwhile, the taxiways were mostly snow over pavement. Therefore, minimal issues while taxiing on a route with several turns leading to a false sense of security and the assumption that the parking area was the same.
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Reports here in The States are saying the pilot mistook the taxiway edge lines for the taxiway centerline.
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Originally Posted by Chiefttp
(Post 11177170)
Reports here in The States are saying the pilot mistook the taxiway edge lines for the taxiway centerline.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9d1d223178.jpg |
The 747 is one of the few widebodies where you can see your wingtips from the cockpit window. In fact if you plonk your cheek on the glass you can see number one engine too. In a tight spot you can always use that secret look out the window technique. Coupled with slowing down there is no need to vacuum up half the airport.
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Originally Posted by By George
(Post 11177288)
The 747 is one of the few widebodies where you can see your wingtips from the cockpit window. In fact if you plonk your cheek on the glass you can see number one engine too. In a tight spot you can always use that secret look out the window technique. Coupled with slowing down there is no need to vacuum up half the airport.
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Here is a plot of the path the 747 took on the taxiway. Obviously he was confused, and coupled with snow covering most of the taxiway markings you can see what may have caused this accident.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4e21be1bf.jpeg |
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