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jdoe 22nd Aug 2002 12:08

9-11 flight deck crews salary docked
 
Just reported on ABC morning news: United flight deck crews widows received docked salaries for 11 September, due to the flights not being completed!!

HotDog 22nd Aug 2002 12:19

Beancounters united!:mad:

Piz Buin 22nd Aug 2002 12:32

Believable :mad:

Low-Pass 22nd Aug 2002 12:34

jdoe just updated that the family concessions were withdrawn on 23rd Oct 2001.

What a load of bankers!

DX Wombat 22nd Aug 2002 13:16

From a mere passenger's point of view may I say that, to put it mildly, I am disgusted. UA is one airline I will now never fly with. Where are the sensationalist journalists when they are really needed? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad::(

Flexable 22nd Aug 2002 13:41

I do not understand what this big fuss is all about.
Other benefits will kick in and as i understand trust funds were created for them.

And before somebody start throwing insults, yes I am a pilot and could face the same destiny (God help me)...

OldAg84 22nd Aug 2002 15:42

If it's true, it just seeems so wrong...

They should be paid as if they completed their last flight, which is the way I look at it.

747FOCAL 22nd Aug 2002 15:45

So does that mean the relatives of the people on the flight are due a refund since the flight never completed? :rolleyes:

LatviaCalling 22nd Aug 2002 17:13

This is absolutely disgusting on the part of UA. This action will cost them a hell of a lot of PR, on an airline that is wavering into extinction. It's a damn shame to let the bean counters take over and not let the PR people know. On the other hand, if the PR people knew about it, then damn the airline.
:mad:

canberra 22nd Aug 2002 17:50

pay
 
thats worse than the military! the widows of the raf aircrew killed in the gulf war got 13 weeks of their husbands salary as well as a widows pension. i cant believe united has stopped their free flights either, how much goodwill will that cost the company? yes i know there will be trust funds but if it had been virgin involved i bet sir richard wouldnt have stopped the free flights!

Fokker-Jock 22nd Aug 2002 18:05

FLEXABLE:

Even if it's not that big a deal with regard to the amount of money, it clearly is a total lack of respect towards the F/D Crew and their widows, and it's also a principal. If it's not that big a deal, then it shouldn't be big deal if they were to have it either. That way UA would avoid this negative publicity in an ever so difficult time.

:mad:

LatviaCalling 22nd Aug 2002 18:05

Let's put everything on hold for a moment. I've searched ABC News U.S. and ABC Australian Broadcasting Co. and I can not find a story that even vaguely resembles this report, yet I may be wrong. I've asked the original poster for more information regarding the origin of this news item.

Kalium Chloride 22nd Aug 2002 20:14

Before we all become too outraged, is it possible that the payment is calculated by some computer deep in the bowels of UAL headquarters and that nobody thought to tell said computer that the flight was cut short for hitherto well-documented reasons?

If the wage docking exists at all, I can't believe that it's down to a human decision. Sounds more like one of those "deceased chap sent gas bill" type affairs.

LatviaCalling 22nd Aug 2002 22:07

I'm just waiting for the shutdown of this post. There are a lot of union issues to be settled before United can unilaerally cut someone's pay, and United flatly denies that this was the case.

SaturnV 22nd Aug 2002 23:14

Latvia, I have searched AP, Reuters, NY Times, USA Today, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post, ABC, and even the New York Post, and there is no evidence of such a story.

southernmtn 23rd Aug 2002 03:24

If the Company has docked the salaries of the deceased crew, it sounds like they must have been in consultation with SIA!

Ignition Override 23rd Aug 2002 05:13

Southernmtn- Watch out! They might be walking around in the large bamboo, looking for a long heavy stick to beat you with...or can they hold your remarks against you during a checkride?

zerozero 23rd Aug 2002 05:23

Gratuitous bashing!
 
Generally I try to avoid gratuitous bashing (and this may be my first) but it sounds like somebody from UAL graduated from the 411A school of airline management....

...you know,
if it's true at all.:) :D :cool: ;) :p :rolleyes:

jdoe 23rd Aug 2002 08:48

Unfortunately, very true. It was reported on the ABC morning show yesterday and had three of the widows in the studio.

bodstrup 23rd Aug 2002 13:37

Jdoe, then I applogize for the former suspicion.

I subscribe to the 'computer program' theory, no human in their right mind would demand a pay cut in these circumstances.

Regards
Michael


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