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Ddraig Goch 18th Mar 2021 09:59

Another knuckle dragger around Heathrow:
 
I hope this hasn't been posted elsewhere, if so delete.

"Laser Attack Forces Virgin Atlantic Boeing 787 Dreamliner Diversion"

More at: https://simpleflying.com/laser-attack-virgin-atlantic/

Feel free to rant and rave!

MPN11 18th Mar 2021 10:45

I have a friend who was PAX on that flight. He told me that the pilot had lost peripheral vision and was advised to return to LHR. An additional inconvenience was that the standby pilot at LHR had "the wrong type of Covid test" for entry at Tel Aviv, thus requiring the pax to be overnighted at the Hilton Garden Inn. His journey resumed the following morning.

My opinion of the Laser user is unprintable.

DaveReidUK 18th Mar 2021 12:44

Culprit has been arrested, according to this report.

Dan Dare 18th Mar 2021 14:08

How can the punishment for this xxxx ever fit the costs, inconvenience and injury? Every penny that he [am I allowed to make this assumption?] has every earned and will ever earn won’t scratch the surface of the costs to Virgin never minding delays and incidental costs to all the passengers and freight. They are very lucky that I’m not in charge of justice! I hope the pilot is not permanently scarred.

Timmy Tomkins 18th Mar 2021 14:11

A laser event "over Paris" seems unusual. I wonder what altitude and how the, presumably French, police found the culprit, when ours seem to struggle to nail them? Clever technology? A special unit?

Euclideanplane 18th Mar 2021 15:22

Timmy
It was hit on departure, turned around over Paris.

Icanseeclearly 18th Mar 2021 16:54

The CAA have a safety notice (SN - 2020/017 - Laser attack).

SN-2020/017: Laser Attacks

it includes a self assessment tool (paragraph 2.3) on whether you might have suffered any immediate effect or damage, maybe worth carrying a copy or downloading in case some fool targets you.

ATC Watcher 18th Mar 2021 19:00


French, police found the culprit, when ours seem to struggle to nail them? Clever technology? A special unit?
Simple denunciation I guess , easy to see who it is from the ground, a smartphone snapshot, put it on FB and bingo .

G-ARZG 20th Mar 2021 08:38

So, to protect us existing 'knuckle draggers around Heathrow', this was a French knuckle dragger, not one of ours? Needs clarifying.
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OvertHawk 20th Mar 2021 09:20

The aircraft was hit on departure from LHR.

Presumably the turnaround over Paris was due to the time it took the crew to identify and ascertain that the pilot's vision was affected - it can take some time to recognise the onset of symptoms. They will probably have been in contact with their ops to take advice.

G-ARZG 20th Mar 2021 09:45

Post 5 suggested the perp was caught by French police. Perhaps it was, after all, a rogue member of the Heathrow KD's

RVF750 20th Mar 2021 11:38

We were targeted many years ago, not very accurate and I might have risked it a bit spotting it but with Google Earth up I was actually able to pinpoint the actual house it had come from! Hint is if you are stupid enough to fire a laser at an aircraft, perhaps think before leaning out your bedroom in the house that's right at the edge of town, on the corner of a junction and clearly identifiable from the air, even in twilight.!!

West Sussex Constabulary promptly turned up and gratefully took the screenshot attachment from me together with statement. Apparently the house was well known by them.

FullMetalJackass 22nd Mar 2021 07:25


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher (Post 11011587)
Simple denunciation I guess , easy to see who it is from the ground, a smartphone snapshot, put it on FB and bingo .

A few years back I was targeted with a l@ser when flying an SEP on the approach into EDLP at night; fortunately I had my GoPro recording at the time; this also recorded GPS data available. From the footage, the police were able to identify which building the laser had been aimed from. Unfortunately the building was a residential complex of a number of flats so they couldn't identify the culprit definitively in order to press charges but the Police did advise that they had 'knocked on a few doors' and since then, the reports of lasers targeting aircraft at that location had stopped.

Del Prado 26th Mar 2021 07:03


Originally Posted by G-ARZG (Post 11012554)
So, to protect us existing 'knuckle draggers around Heathrow', this was a French knuckle dragger, not one of ours? Needs clarifying.
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only to you. It’s perfectly clear in the report.
L@$er incident was on departure, The pilot was becoming increasingly challenged so out of an abundance of caution turned round over Paris.

The chance of a ‘successful’ hit and injury caused at or near cruising levels is much reduced compared to low level.

RoyHudd 26th Mar 2021 12:11

Laser targeting of aircraft equals endangering life or even attempted murder. Should not the punishment fit the crime?


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