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Bergerie1 5th Jan 2021 15:23

A350 Fuselage coating cracks
 
Does anyone have more information on this? A Qatar Airways’ Airbus A350-900, registered A7-ALL, was ferried to Shannon Airport (SNN) in Ireland, on November 13, 2020. There, aviation painting company International Aerospace Coatings (IAC) was supposed to give it a special livery to celebrate the 2022 FIFA World Cup to be held in Qatar.

However, after the original livery was removed, cracks in the fuselage were reportedly found in the composite (CFRP) fuselage. It should now be ferried to Airbus headquarters in Toulouse for inspection and repairs.

https://www.aerotime.aero/26851-crac...qatar-a350-xwb

DaveReidUK 5th Jan 2021 16:17

I'll be interested to see how close to the tail the cracks were found.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1477ee4f38.jpg


Longtimer 5th Jan 2021 16:25

re the ground strike, it was evidently on the left elevator.
Serious incident Airbus A330-343 9M-XXC, 07 Jul 2018 (aviation-safety.net)
There is a link to the accident investigation than can be downloaded as a pdf file.

Bergerie1 5th Jan 2021 19:00

What has this ground incident got to do with the Qatar A350 reg A7-ALL? Has this A350 been involved with any unusual incdents? We need some information from Airbus.

Ben_S 5th Jan 2021 19:13

Surely the relevance is obvious. It was the other aircraft involved in the incident as per the report.

Bergerie1 5th Jan 2021 20:41

Apologies to one and all, I should have read the report rather than just looking at the headlines. But we still need information from Airbus.

jeehaa 5th Jan 2021 21:13

Just saw that the aircraft was ferried to TLS today and actually flew at FL410. I am curious about what kind of cracks they’ve found.
Surely it wasn’t structeral.

DaveReidUK 6th Jan 2021 08:37

If the cracks were in the rear fuselage, they may have been outside the pressure hull.

Speed_Alive_V1 6th Jan 2021 10:06

"The issue is superficial / cosmetic and only visible when the top coat of paint is stripped. It is not a structural composite issue."

Interesting to see what Airbus will come back with - it was ferried from Shannon to Toulouse yesterday.

flypaddy 5th Aug 2021 15:02

This has escalated.

I’m unable to post links but Google “Qatar A350” for news of 13 hulls grounded.

tubby linton 5th Aug 2021 15:53

Ap news has the following story
https://apnews.com/article/middle-ea...ae6aaa15982317

DaveReidUK 5th Aug 2021 17:12

"Following the explicit written instruction of its regulator, 13 aircraft have now been grounded."

Yeah, right.


MCDU2 5th Aug 2021 18:33

Seems a bit fishy to me. Perhaps if EASA or the FAA had ordered the withdrawal from service......We will no doubt see in a few days if other regulators follow suit.

Airmann 6th Aug 2021 20:13

This is not a safety related issue. Qatar's main issue is that the cracks are appearing too early in the life cycle of the plane. They are now in discussion (argument) with Airbus over the way forward. They feel the aircraft are aging too quickly.

End of story. This sort of thing happens between manufacturers and their customers all the time. Qatar is just using the regulator and the media to add more pressure on Airbus to resolve.

Anti Skid On 7th Aug 2021 02:53

OK, so there are two threads about what appears to be the same issue

https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...ght=A350+paint

As stated in the other thread, considerable feeling that this is Qatar looking to extract $$'s from Airbus.

illusion 7th Aug 2021 12:41

Reading between the lines- the Arabs are running out of oil and gas, they have too many aircraft, not enough customers and fishing for a free feed from Airbus.....

turbidus 7th Aug 2021 13:03

This could be a number of things...there is a skim coat applied to the aircraft to smooth it all out prior to painting...cracks in this coating can translate to surface cracks in the composite material.
It may be something as simple as sanding off the skim coat and re-application of a different kind of skimcoat....

ATC Watcher 9th Aug 2021 08:05

I fly a composite GA aircraft , much smaller, not the speed of an 350/787 of course, but cracks in the surface are not uncommon because the 2K paint typically used is not exactly as flexible as the composite it covers. Not nice to look at and needs repair as moisture gets into the cracks, but not really a safety issue. But I do not know which paint /primer they use on 350s/787s.one would expect they had an engineering solution to this as this phenomenon is known.


FiveGirlKit 13th Aug 2021 11:20

It looks like EASA does not agree with the QCAA actions
 
Qatar A350: EASA Taking No Action (at this time)! - Mentour Pilot

Based on the data provided to EASA, there is no indication that the paint and protection degradation affects the structure of the aircraft or introduces other risks, and so EASA is not intending to take any action as State of Design for this issue at this time. No other airlines have reported paint and protection damage.

Anti Skid On 19th Aug 2021 07:33

And also this https://www.airlinerwatch.com/2021/0...on-airbus.html

Singapore have 55 with no problems detected


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