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INSCRINIUM 5th Nov 2020 05:44

No BA pax service during lockdown
 
There is a rumour on the BAEC FT forum that BA will cease flying pax during lockdown and carry cargo only (apart from repatriation flights)

Anyone have knowledge which confirms or denies?

DaveReidUK 5th Nov 2020 07:04

It's 8 am.

Instead of the usual 20 or so BA departures from LHR by this time there have been about half a dozen so far today, though all but one have scheduled flight numbers.

Herod 5th Nov 2020 08:02

Could this be the reason? "If you live in England, you cannot travel overseas or within the UK, unless for work, education or other legally permitted reasons, and you should look to reduce the number of journeys you make."

3Greens 5th Nov 2020 10:28

The rumour is doing the rounds of a shutdown from 8th. Couple of things that may scupper this..
1. This sort of thing needs to be announced to the stock market before facebook
2. How on earth would all the stranded pax get home? It’d cost BA a lot in combo and empty one way repat flights.
3. There are actually a few business routes that are still viable. Any shutdown would be handing cash to competitors.

I think there’s something in it though but maybe a significant reduction and or leverage with government to actually get their finger out and help aviation rather than choking the life out of it.

TURIN 5th Nov 2020 10:59

Rumour control from this end.
No longhaul except cargo ops.
About a dozen short haul flights per day to continue.
No domestic flights.

Almost all staff to be furloughed.

Just rumour?

Count von Altibar 5th Nov 2020 11:56

Well it is a rumour forum so nothing wrong with that. Can't see much happening of a positive note until the Spring 2021, looks like BA are about to go into sleep mode for a while and I don't blame them. Best to take the government support and protect the business as clearly hardly anyone is flying due to the pandemic.

DaveReidUK 5th Nov 2020 12:11


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 10919287)
No domestic flights.

Departures so far today to Newcastle, Aberdeen, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Inverness and Belfast would suggest that domestics haven't yet stopped.

lomapaseo 5th Nov 2020 12:50

Are the trains running, or are you really locked down domestically ?

Feathers McGraw 5th Nov 2020 13:36

One acceptable reason for leaving your home is to go to work if you are unable to work at home. Given the reduction in passenger numbers I don't know how much of a service continues, but the government has effectively nationalised the train operating companies because their business model and franchise has effectively had the rug pulled out from under it.

lomapaseo 5th Nov 2020 13:45

If they don't nationalize BA and run the trains themselves, won't that put BA out of Domestic business forever?

Feathers McGraw 5th Nov 2020 14:07

Good question, if I knew the answer to that sort of thing I might have a share portfolio to support me in my old age.

kcockayne 5th Nov 2020 14:32

We have had two BAW flights from Heathrow today, with two more scheduled. Then again, we are not in lockdown.

Twiglet1 5th Nov 2020 15:07

Flew on BA Monday, flight was delayed as the crew were waiting their CV19 test results. What to do, everything is stacked against passenger airlines at the moment, I wonder how the crews manage with this extra stress.

wiggy 5th Nov 2020 16:08

TURIN

Certainly it was a rumour (which included the furlough aspect) circulating late last night on one Social Media conduit and the source was..other Social Media...however today I've heard/read other stories that might mean there is some credibility to all this..

TURIN 5th Nov 2020 16:10


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10919359)
Departures so far today to Newcastle, Aberdeen, Manchester, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Inverness and Belfast would suggest that domestics haven't yet stopped.

Takes effect on Monday. Just been confirmed. Good luck everyone.

clipstone1 5th Nov 2020 16:31


Originally Posted by lomapaseo (Post 10919436)
If they don't nationalize BA and run the trains themselves, won't that put BA out of Domestic business forever?

why would it? despite the fact there's 10% of people using the trains, the prices are still the ridiculous prices they were before. Cheaper to fly to Scotland than to train it almost every time.

king surf 5th Nov 2020 16:48


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 10919518)
Takes effect on Monday. Just been confirmed. Good luck everyone.

Confirmed by Who?

WonderBus 5th Nov 2020 16:49

It 100% hasn’t been confirmed. At the moment the network plan is for a larger operation than April and May lockdown, but massively scaled back on the original Nov schedule.

Suzeman 5th Nov 2020 16:51

lomapaseo

Yes trains are still running, -both long distance and local - to a reduced schedule.

Train2Plane 5th Nov 2020 16:57

We are currently running about a 90% timetable going up to a 100% timetable from the start of December.
Side note; the trains are pretty much empty.


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