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pilotofjet 17th Aug 2002 12:49

easyJet pilots favour strike
 
On the private company site for easyJet at pprune, a poll is running to gauge the support for strike action amongst the cockpit crews. A staggering 93 % are in favour!!
Pilots have been told to expect a 1.3% rise for First Officers and 2.3% rise for Captains this year. This offer has been rejected overwhelmingly by postal ballot. This month, senior managers announced plans to award themselves a £10 million bonus once Go have been integrated into the easyJet .

Commando 17th Aug 2002 20:21

There's a big difference between voting for a strike on an anonymous forum and actually voting to strike!
Hope it doesn't come to that, even though management have 'taken the p1ss' - big time!

Lapsus linguae 17th Aug 2002 21:12

Pilots have not been told to expect the quoted pay rise, it was offered and rejected!

Deadleg 17th Aug 2002 21:16

Commando are'nt strike ballots secret as well-I think secret =anonymous!

alpha charlie 17th Aug 2002 22:08

What Pilotofjet forgot to mention was that 'staggering vote' was only a total of 39 votes of 42 cast of what, 420+ pilots at easyJet, ? Think you might wish to do a recount there PilotofJet!

FlapsOne 17th Aug 2002 22:38

pilotofjet

Looking at your previous posts on these fora, you work for EZY but quite obviously hate it and submit nothing but negative comments in an attempt to grab attention.

What on earth are your motives for putting up this mis-leading information on the public forum? Did you simply forget to mention that only 42 people had bothered to vote?

If you're that unhappy, get vectors for the exit!

Commando 18th Aug 2002 06:01

What I meant Deadleg is that you're usually going to put a bit more thought into actually voting to strike rather than clicking a box on a pprune forum.

pilotofjet 18th Aug 2002 06:54

flaps one
 
I have to disagree that my post is negative, I deliberately tried to keep it neutral. It is a statement of facts. Statistics are often presented in a snapshot to make a point appear stronger. 42 pilots might only be the total number to have voted , but that also might be the total number with access to the company forum.If a company wide ballot is to follow, and it very might well, could we not expect a similar result?
The other point I was trying to make was that if it is so easy for the management team to find £10 million for a bonus for themselves, maybe they could look a little harder to find a bit more of a pay rise for us pilots. I would like things to be better at easy, so please do not construe that as a negative .

Seriph 18th Aug 2002 08:31

Is a union recognised within EJ? Only union members can vote for or participate in any industrial action. Large numbers are required fo any action to be effective.

flybhx 18th Aug 2002 08:56

Srikes tend to have predictable effects for a Company anyway. They have the option to make alternative arrangements. Working to rule is far more effective as a disruption tactic as the results on any given day are totally unpredictable and you still get paid.

zippyz 18th Aug 2002 11:02

Pilotofjet please take care
 
As another eJ employee I would rather we didn't hang the dirty washing out here. We have our own forum for this sort of thing and your post is only inflammatory and does nothing to serve anyone any good. Like you, I and every other hardworking eJ employee is unhappy at the current state of our Company and really P%%%%ed off at the GBP10M 'slush fund for the boys at the top' as they continue a deliberate campaign of profit maximisation regardless of the cost to us personally and our working conditions but S###stirring here will not help the issue. They are only doing what every other moneygrubber does. This is not meant to limit your freedom of expression or speech in any way but please just think a little before you press the "POST" button.
Ta,
Zip

Agaricus bisporus 18th Aug 2002 16:33

Stick with it chaps! Remember Go had a similarly derisive pay rise last year due "nothing left in the bank" which changed instantaneously to a 20% ish rise upon Easy's announcement of a £25K golden hello...

Remember, there's a big difference between leaning forward and !bending over !

Stelios 18th Aug 2002 16:33

I think what's happening is that the company realise that they can't possibly keep going in the long term, so they cream off all they can for themselves, before they shut the door on us.
Get your CVs up to date, it's another sinking Greek ship.

penguin 18th Aug 2002 21:49

Well boys and girls, go get your raises like the United folks did. :rolleyes:

Oleo 19th Aug 2002 06:57

Well Penguin, I guess the 10 mill to be spread around the senior managers as a bonus upon integration could be spread more thinly around all the employees in the much touted caring and sharing Easy way. The pot can't be that empty.

Four legs good, two legs better (Animal Farm)

touchedrunway? 19th Aug 2002 12:44

:confused: :confused:

Hear hear Penguin, there are so many people looking at the negative side of airlines at the moment.

Wake up guys and smell the coffee. The grass is not always greener. We have jobs. There are about 10,000 others that would give there right arms ( and other parts of thier anatomy) to be sat in our seats. The industry is completely up the spout at the mo. Hang on and just think how lucky we are compared to our friends accross the pond!!!:( :( :(

Groundhog Night 19th Aug 2002 13:08

touchedrunway

Our friends across the pond have a good reason to be 'up the spout' - easyjet and others are thriving.

So many people are looking at the negative side of airlines at the moment because the airlines are running amok.

I take it you would have told Ghandi and Nelson Mandela to ' wake up and smell the coffee' because they were no longer slaves and didn't have aids!!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Flap 5 20th Aug 2002 08:09

There have been a lot of opinions expressed on this thread, but facts are more relevant. Are easyJet expanding too rapidly? The symptoms are certainly there. One of these would be the present chaotic rostering system. The danger here is the apparent management attitude of: 'there is no problem'.

Pilots who are provided with training sign a 3 year agreement. After the 3 years they are free to leave. easyJet had better beware that many pilots are just waiting for the 3 years to be up before moving on.

A poor pay rise is frankly less important than life style. Unless easyjet can sort out the rostering problems and their general attitude to their pilots (which is at odds with their advertising campaign) their problems will just get worse. It should start with treating their applicants better, right through to better support for their commanders on the line.

BigRab 20th Aug 2002 08:49

Is it not more useful to air these types of subjects in public rather than on private forums?
Pilots in other airlines who may be considering their options will benefit from more information on which to base their decision. Employers who are shown in a good light will be more able to attract new entrants, and vis-versa; encouraging them to make things more attractive.
As a long-term admirer of EJ, I am getting the impression that the grass is turning orangey-brown.
Is that correct?

zippyz 20th Aug 2002 09:03

BigRab,
I agree with you that these issues need to be discussed and well out in the open! What I was trying to ask was that 'pilotofjet' just thought a little about the use of the 'post' button. To say that we are voting for strike is erroneous and even misleading. I make no bones about teh current level of dissatisfaction throughout eJ atm. Most people are very unhappy and see very little light on teh horizon.. but that S%%%%stirring will achieve nothing positive.

Zip


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