PIA A320 Crash Karachi
 

News coming in that a Pakistan International Airlines ( PIA) A320 from Lahore to Karachi just crashed few minutes from landing

Flight 8303

98 passengers + crew


https://www.geo.tv/latest/289217-pia...arachi-airport

Sky News are reporting 107 passengers on board - just broke the story on air now.

PIA Flight PK8303 - Aircraft reg: AP-BLD

Crash site looks to be a densely populated area.

More news here

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52766904A Pakistan International Airlines plane has crashed in Karachi on a flight from Lahore, aviation officials say.

The plane, which was reported to be carrying 90 passengers, was flying from Lahore to Jinnah International Airport, one of Pakistan's busiest airports.

Pictures shared on social media show smoke rising from the crash site, a residential area.

Emergency services have arrived at the scene.

https://www.timesnownews.com/interna...airport/595631



Karachi: Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) flight from Lahore to Karachi crashed near Karachi's Jinnah International Airport, Pakistan media reported on Friday. Confirming the crash, PIA spokesperson Abdul Sattar said that Flight 8303 was carrying 90 passengers and eight crew members from Lahore to Karachi.

The flight crashed into a residential area and was carrying 90 passengers. Footage showed smoke rising from the site of the crash, Dawn reported.


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Fakhr-e-Alam✔@falamb3Fire trucks are at the sight....rescue operations are under way for PIA Airbus A320 crash site in Karachi. It is a congested urban area. This has been a terrible year all around. The wreckage and homes remain on fire with jet fuel.
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Azhar@MashwaniAzharYa Allah Khair.. https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2639.png#PIA plane Airbus 320 (Lahore to Karachi) crashed near Karachi Airport

95 Passengers and 7 crew members!
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"An aircraft of #PIA en route from Lahore to Karachi has reportedly crashed just before landing at Karachi," Radio Pakistan reported

ATC recording: Mayday declared as they had lost engines

Apparently on second attempt after go around. Crash site is apparently Model Garden suburb, very close to the airport but significantly off the runway centerline.

The mayday message res engine failure is available transcripted on twitter from a poster mentioned above and a recording of same is also available, if you search under the flight number. Cannot post links, sorry.

Few years back , during Ramadan an Airblue A320 also crashed during a circle to land.

Is it still Ramadan ?

Did PIA really publish the passenger manifest?

Maybe leaked by some insiders since its Pakistan.

It would add to injury to assault, if PIA did release the manifesto without officially informing passengers and staff affected by the crash.

Sads time indeed....

4 years ago, a PIA crashed in Ramadan. Pilot error was the nominating factor whilst dealing with an engine failure.

Today we see another accident in the month of Ramadan. If this accident was caused by yet more pilot error, then there must be an investigation to see if the crew were observing their fasts whilst operating. I think this may be an underlying issue with pilot judgement and decision making.

Very sad webcam footage of the last 30secs or so of the flight now on twitter - can't post links but under a search of its flight number.

More pictures and videos here including one of the plane coming down....not pretty.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8347577/Airbus-A320-107-people-aboard-crashes-residential-area-Karachi-Pakistan.html

A Pakistan International Airlines Airbus A320 passenger plane carrying more than 100 people today crashed into a residential area of Karachi.

Witnesses said the flight from Lahore had made three failed attempts to land at Jinnah International Airport before ploughing into the Model Colony area of the city on a fourth landing attempt.

The pilot also told air traffic control that he had lost one his engines and he made a final mayday call before the crash. All 99 passengers and eight crew aboard the flight are believed to have died in the crash.

Plumes of billowing smoke smothered the skyline after the Pakistan International Airlines plane smashed into the poor and densely populated area of Model Colony that is two miles from the airport.

Engine (S)? Seems like a Dual Flame out, hope it’s not Dual because I have flown into OPKC and was vectored for Rwl 25L and it’s a highly dense area before the threshold, more like residential blocks.

More pictures and video

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pakista...ay-2020-05-22/

Agrred. Weather seemed to be fairly tame.

Except for fuel exhaustion I can't imagine an a320 loosing both engine at landing... Very bad bad bird strike ?

From the footage it would seem they were in controlled flight.

Bit perplexed by the reported multiple go aroudns.

Obviously all very very preliminary

I refused to strap my backside to any aircraft of a Ramadan observing airline, during the holy month.

Not suggesting that fasting was the cause or a contributing factor, in this tragedy.

If any crew member is not eating during the hours of daylight is bad enough. If they aren't drinking water, thay are in no fit state to be operating any machinery what so ever.

link to audio

02:53 - Roger... AND repeated aural warning (chime ?) sounds in background
04:50 - 8303 going around
06:48 - sir we have..just give me 2000 (feet)
07:17 - we are trying to maintain...
09:06 - we are proceeding direct, we have lost engines
09:36 - MAYDAY,MAYDAY,MAYDAY Pakistan 830..3 [ last x-mission ? ]

0940: - ATC : Pakistan 8303 Roger both runways available to land

So the had a go-around because of landing gear extension issue and then dual engine flame-out?! Doesn't make sense.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/p...achi-pakistan/

Live ATC (4:47)

Still you'd need to do quite a few circuits to exhaust all your reserve fuel assuming "normal" operations. Hard to tell but from the posted footage landing gear does not seem extended.
No ADS-B data available apparently :(
My only reasonable explanation would be a very bad case of bird strike but I'm sure they would have reported it..

Engine noise
 

The video that claims to be from the last moments of the flight has audible engine noise (doesn’t look or sound like it is in surge).

The video may turn out to be something other than claimed of course.

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I'm betting on technical problem leading to go-arounds -- and in focus on fixing technical problem, forgetting about fuel state and flame out. It has happened before. United Airlines in 1978. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...nes_Flight_173

There's 5.5 mins between the go-around and impact.... Doesn't that make lack of fuel less likely?

I’m not sure if that video showing the port side is the real deal. Seems like a normal approach to me. If it is the video, then glide speed is good and I assume they simply landed short. Gear is down.

There is a post crash fire. Fuel exhaustion highly unlikely.

Flight time from Lahore to Karachi appears normal. Impossible that it was a fuel leak that went undetected flying overland, many alternates. Improper fuelling in Lahore? Did they forget to retract gear for some reason, or that the gear didn't retract?

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This just up on the net. Both engines are charred underneath significantly. Light smoke behind engines.

The bottom video of this tweet (marked 'The video of #planecrash') is a low quality video (probably capturing on-screen playback of a security cam??), apparently shows an a/c crashing

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There is no alert on the 320 if you choose to fly gear down the entire trip. It’s been done before. There would be significant noise flying in such configuration also.

However they would be aware of such low fuel state prior to the first approach. Why the heck would anyone even contemplate a missed approach with nothing in the tanks. Which is why I would be opening up the engineering books!

eek. ran them along the ground ??

Quick-and-dirty vertical profile from 5000', per FR24 data:


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f68cf7cf6d.jpg

Did they forget to lower the gear on the first landing attempt?!

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WOW! Those engines look like they've been run around the ground to me..... Gear up landing, lifted of again, engines failed due to damage, crashed?

KHI elevation is 100ft......

Could the dirty lower nacelles be due to oil leaks, maybe over the whole flight? I know it's both engines but maybe there was some sort of systematic maintenance error.

If the oil loss is total then both engines could run down due to lack of lubrication.

Bloody hell...
Are we sure this is the aircraft from today? RAT looks deployed, the engine undersides look quite bad... The left one has bits hanging off oft he lip?