Embraer EMB-120RT shoot down in Somalia
Story from the BBC.
Please note that this was an EMB 120, rather than the aircraft shown on the BBC website. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-52545582 |
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Ok thanks, I will amend accordingly.
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Reports suggest downed by an RPG.
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Terrible loss. Poor crew. RIP.
Kind of puts that 727 orbit at Mogadishu in a different light. |
Certainly could have been an RPG, but if so it was a very lucky (unlucky to those one board) shot.
The large numbers of EDF troops and equipment at and near the airport would also suggest the presence of other weapons which could have been used. Time will tell -- or not. |
Originally Posted by sprite1
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Terrible loss. Poor crew. RIP.
Kind of puts that 727 orbit at Mogadishu in a different light. The crews flying those missions are highly skilled and aware of the risks. Sad day. Is an RPG hit on such a small moving target at 2300 feet without guidance really possible? It seems a somewhat unlikely explanation, I always presumed that the RPG was a close in weapon |
Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson
(Post 10773537)
Is an RPG hit on such a small moving target at 2300 feet without guidance really possible? It seems a somewhat unlikely explanation, I always presumed that the RPG was a close in weapon
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Years ago I met a Yemeni telling me that he was considered as a hero in his country because he had managed to shoot down an AN12 with his RPG, I also have heard about 2 different cases of RPG rockets going through flying helicopter airframes without detonating at all because they missed hitting a strong enough frame to trigger the detonator. ( I believe the crews became ardent believers after this ))))))
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Originally Posted by cpt
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Years ago I met a Yemeni telling me that he was considered as a hero in his country because he had managed to shoot down an AN12 with his RPG, I also have heard about 2 different cases of RPG rockets going through flying helicopter airframes without detonating at all because they missed hitting a strong enough frame to trigger the detonator. ( I believe the crews became ardent believers after this ))))))
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0585690aa.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d40080e58.jpeg |
Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson
(Post 10773537)
I agree with your sentiments.
having spent best part of 3 years flying in and out of Mogadishu, it’s no place for complacency or the faint hearted, the strips inland even more so. The crews flying those missions are highly skilled and aware of the risks. Sad day. Is an RPG hit on such a small moving target at 2300 feet without guidance really possible? It seems a somewhat unlikely explanation, I always presumed that the RPG was a close in weapon I don't know how they can know it was at 2,300'. But reports also say it crashed 5Km from the airport which is likely to be reasonably accurate. I would expect it to be a lot lower than 2,300' AGL at 5Km out. (I can't find the elevation of Berdale, but I assume it's high and so the numbers are AGL) |
Reports in Kenyan media that Ethiopian forces have admitted shooting it down and this bizarre letter is on twitter
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This is indeed a bizarre communication - whoever produced this nonsense did make a complete fool of himself.
Is this an active combat zone ? Muss say I am not up to date to the local conditions. |
Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10777211)
This is indeed a bizarre communication - whoever produced this nonsense did make a complete fool of himself.
Is this an active combat zone ? Muss say I am not up to date to the local conditions. It is a great shame, the Somalis are a wonderful people, and they don't deserve this misery. |
Teddy, wonderful people they may be in some respects, but their violent, tribal and and warlike nature makes the situation 100% culturally self inflicted as you well know.
Me against my Brother -remember? |
Originally Posted by meleagertoo
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Teddy, wonderful people they may be in some respects, but their violent, tribal and and warlike nature makes the situation 100% culturally self inflicted as you well know.
Me against my Brother -remember? The history of Somalia is intricate, complex, and brutal. That does not detract from those working hard for peace and cultural change. TR |
Is it prejudice if it’s the truth? Or is it simply an uncomfortable truth?
Spent my share of time in country, it’s as described. |
Originally Posted by West Coast
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Is it prejudice if it’s the truth? Or is it simply an uncomfortable truth?
Spent my share of time in country, it’s as described. |
Originally Posted by Teddy Robinson
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The aircraft was shot down by Ethiopian troops.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cd91fc4320.jpg |
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