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Koan 11th Mar 2020 19:52

A330 takes out Gulfstream at VLVT
 
A Thai Airways A330-300 has nearly ripped the tail off a Gulfstream IV private jet during a taxiing accident in Vientiane, Laos.The accident occurred in darkness on 9 March as the A330 (HS-TEU) prepared to operate flight TG575 on the Vientiane-Bangkok Suvarnabhumi route, according to Thai Airways.“When the pilot took the plane out to the taxiway, its wing collided with the tail of a small personal plane.” Images on social media show that the outboard leading edge of the A330’s left wing suffered damage.As for the private jet, M-YWAY, the entire tail plane was nearly torn off, coming to rest on the right-side horizontal stabilizer. The front landing gear also appears to have been severely twisted in its mounting. The Thai aircraft was carrying 79 passengers and 13 crew, all of whom are safe, says the airline. Cirium fleets data indicates that HS-TEU is managed by Thai and was delivered in March 2010, though it only entered service in June 2011.
https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/...137157.article
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Longtimer 11th Mar 2020 23:48

The most telling thing re this report is that the A330-300 was only carrying 79 passengers..... vs a full load over 400

Gauges and Dials 12th Mar 2020 00:16

"Small personal plane". G4. :p


ATC Watcher 12th Mar 2020 07:19

the 330 having apparently from the photo has relatively little visible damage , and aircraft was taxing out , so most probably at low speed, how can this cause the 90 deg cut off of a G4 vertical stab ? are the vertical stab so weak to lateral forces by design,?

marchino61 12th Mar 2020 07:34


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher (Post 10710948)
the 330 having apparently from the photo has relatively little visible damage , and aircraft was taxing out , so most probably at low speed, how can this cause the 90 deg cut off of a G4 vertical stab ? are the vertical stab so weak to lateral forces by design,?

Momentum.....

MechEngr 12th Mar 2020 07:41


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher (Post 10710948)
the 330 having apparently from the photo has relatively little visible damage , and aircraft was taxing out , so most probably at low speed, how can this cause the 90 deg cut off of a G4 vertical stab ? are the vertical stab so weak to lateral forces by design,?

The mention suggests that the nose gear on the G4 was damaged; It may be that more than a little leverage was involved.

It would not surprise me if the little jet was set onto one wingtip and the nose gear and lifted off the main gear during the event.

jmmoric 12th Mar 2020 08:03


Originally Posted by marchino61 (Post 10710959)
Momentum.....

Agreed, as with everything else when you work with things weithing over a 100 tonnes....

fox niner 12th Mar 2020 08:35

Nice registration. M-YWAY.
perhaps the airbus was in a right turn, which would give the wingtip an extra kick?

golfyankeesierra 12th Mar 2020 09:40

In more then one way a costly flight..

The Thai aircraft was carrying 79 passengers and 13 crew

Lord Bracken 12th Mar 2020 10:01

Dearie me. The reason big widebodies are operated in Asia is not always due to expected pax loads...have you seen the state of some of the road haulage in that part of the world?

Wonderworld 12th Mar 2020 11:13


Originally Posted by Longtimer (Post 10710713)
The most telling thing re this report is that the A330-300 was only carrying 79 passengers..... vs a full load over 400

Since when do TG 333’s take over 400 pax?

ZFT 12th Mar 2020 11:15


Originally Posted by Wonderworld (Post 10711172)
Since when do TG 333’s take over 400 pax?

Never..........

Longtimer 12th Mar 2020 15:24


Originally Posted by Wonderworld (Post 10711172)
Since when do TG 333’s take over 400 pax?

the number posted was for an all economy 330 and of course was inaccurate for Thai. sorry but still not much of a load

No longer ATC 12th Mar 2020 18:52


Originally Posted by fox niner (Post 10711012)
Nice registration. M-YWAY.
perhaps the airbus was in a right turn, which would give the wingtip an extra kick?

"Thai did it Myyyyy waaayyyyyy ................... I'll get me coat.

WingNut60 13th Mar 2020 10:06


Originally Posted by Lord Bracken (Post 10711097)
Dearie me. The reason big widebodies are operated in Asia is not always due to expected pax loads...have you seen the state of some of the road haulage in that part of the world?

I most certainly have.

For the most part Thailand is way ahead of its neighbours.

deja vu 14th Mar 2020 01:22


Originally Posted by Longtimer (Post 10711419)
the number posted was for an all economy 330 and of course was inaccurate for Thai. sorry but still not much of a load

You can only judge the load from the ZFW, which we don't know. My former company operated many 333 flights to one destination and return with <50 pax but at Max ZFW in that part of the world.

Air Inter ( now defunct) were the only A330 operator I know of with an all economy config of close to 400. Maybe others I guess.

No, what is telling is that this was not even close to missing the Gulfstream. We seem to be a bit short on info regarding who strayed where in this almost unforgivable event.

Pugilistic Animus 14th Mar 2020 01:24

Reminds me of that AF A380 did the same thing to an ERJ

Pugilistic Animus 17th Mar 2020 03:05

[QUOTE=deja vu;10713200]You can only judge the load from the ZFW, which we don't know. My former company operated many 333 flights to one destination and return with <50 pax but at Max ZFW in that part of the world.[/QUOTE/
​​​​​​What jet hits MZFW with just 50 punters?

deja vu 17th Mar 2020 03:46

​​​​​​What jet hits MZFW with just 50 punters?[/QUOTE]

Early A330-300 for starters

megan 17th Mar 2020 05:31


What jet hits MZFW with just 50 punters
In conversation a non airline pilot commented on a 777 flight where they had similar number of pax and was told it was maxed out due to a belly load of fish. Possible?


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