Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 10683887)
Any idea what percentage of runways are EMAS equipped ?
83 airports have EMAS on one or more runways, worldwide (2019 numbers). There are about 10,000 airports with scheduled air service with aircraft of more than 50 seats. So about 0.8% of those have EMAS. But call it "On the order of 1%" to allow some statistical wiggle-room - since someone is sure to claim that any grass glider strip counts as a "runway," or point out that a 9-seater BN2 Islander may count as "scheduled commercial service." ;) |
Reading the comments on AVHerald, I got curious: what kind of braking action would that runway have? People are slipping on what looks like ice/compacted snow. I bet landing on that is a bit interesting even without a underrun! Also, is that why they seemingly deployed the reverser ?
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Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 10683577)
It may be worth making the transition from the grass into the pavement a bit less abrupt, possibly a gentle slope of tarmac underneath the turf leading to the beginning of the runway..
Ideally, pilots would land in the touchdown zone like they're supposed to but this isn't the first time that landing gear and fuselage have parted company because the paved surface was a couple of inches higher than the surrounding area and it won't be the last. Clearly this will not prevent all damage to the a/c, but is designed to increase the survivability of these types of accident, something which fortunately appears to have been the case here. The a/c is replaceable, people are not. |
Originally Posted by piperpa46
(Post 10683761)
What is your solution to this problem for EMAS equipped runways?
If USK does not meet the ICAO standards for its published level of licensed operations, that's the issue, not the standards. |
It looks to me as though they landed with Flap 15?
If so that would be a curious choice for a 2500m ice-contaminated runway. |
Why not assume wind shear?
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
(Post 10685144)
It looks to me as though they landed with Flap 15?
If so that would be a curious choice for a 2500m ice-contaminated runway. That being said, there does seem to be pavement visible for the runway instead of 100% snow cover so, who knows. |
Eheh! Flat light may well be a player, I have little experience in landing visually in snow country on a snow covered runway but from what I have done can well understand they were so distracted with descrying runway from bundhu that they simply misssed calling 'Flap30'.
And if the airport had built up snowberms on the runway ends as they seem to have done than any undershoot turns into something altogether different. |
Quote...'And if the airport had built up snowberms on the runway ends' These could have produced some turbulent windshear.
Also the snowed up runway would make it hard to spot where the white runway markers were. |
Aviation Herald: Preliminary report is available.
Accident: UTAir B735 in Usinsk on Feb 9th 2020, landed short of runway, gear collapse and runway excursion on landing The meat: Once on RNAV approach, airport was just a minimums. Aircraft was low on approach, EGWPS was functional, runway was visible at 700 ft AGL, PNF commented on low altitude twice, PF increased thrust but did not correct GS. Main gear hit 1.1m snow berm 32m before runway threshold, with vertical G of +1.6G and longitudinal G of -0.7G. Touchdown on runway (30m past threshold) at 1.86G, one main gear separated, the other collapsed. Runway condition noted as 2mm frost, friction factor 0.38. Captain did not immediately recognize gear had been damaged. |
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