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megan 18th Mar 2020 02:09


Jettison? You'd think after flying almost 11 hours, it will be well under it's MLW by now!!
At the time of the FR24 picture they had flown for 7:32 and the event had occurred 10:49 prior.

Capn Bloggs 18th Mar 2020 02:35


Number 1 and 4 reversers inop? https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies/wink2.gif
That'd do it! Pretty hard to stop if you don't have those 1 and 4 TRs working on the whale, I believe! :eek: :}

Commander Taco 18th Mar 2020 02:50

The A380 does not have thrust reversers on the outboard engines and never did. During the design/build process, Airbus realized that the A380 was seriously overweight, well above what was promised to it’s customers. The decision was made to eliminate the outboard reversers to reduce weight.

Dookie on Drums 18th Mar 2020 11:03


Originally Posted by Commander Taco (Post 10718173)
The A380 does not have thrust reversers on the outboard engines and never did. During the design/build process, Airbus realized that the A380 was seriously overweight, well above what was promised to it’s customers. The decision was made to eliminate the outboard reversers to reduce weight.

Oh dear, someone didn't see the wink and pick up on the joke haha

Capn Bloggs 18th Mar 2020 11:32

What happened to it anyway? Overdump and ran out of fuel? TRs 2 and 3 failed on landing and overrun? :confused:

lomapaseo 18th Mar 2020 13:45


Originally Posted by Commander Taco (Post 10718173)
The A380 does not have thrust reversers on the outboard engines and never did. During the design/build process, Airbus realized that the A380 was seriously overweight, well above what was promised to it’s customers. The decision was made to eliminate the outboard reversers to reduce weight.

I thought that it was because they would have made a mess out of the grass and snow banks alongside the runways

Rarife 18th Mar 2020 13:47

Same here. I'm getting lost what is joke and what is not.

Airbubba 18th Mar 2020 14:09


Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs (Post 10718542)
What happened to it anyway? Overdump and ran out of fuel? TRs 2 and 3 failed on landing and overrun? :confused:

Here's a 'social media' report from an article on the Simple Flying blog:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....313931e16e.jpg

The airline further confirmed this to Simple Flying, with a statement which read:

“Qatar Airways can confirm that flight QR905 from Melbourne to Doha on Tuesday 17 March was diverted to Kuala Lumpur due to a disruptive passenger. The individual was offloaded and met by airport security staff. Qatar Airways has a zero-tolerance attitude towards any actions that put at risk the safety of our passengers and staff and will cooperate fully with law enforcement agencies in all such circumstances.

“The aircraft re-fuelled and continued its journey to Doha [via Muscat to enable a crew change]. Qatar Airways is assisting each passenger individually in Doha with regard to their onward travel and apologizes for the inconvenience caused.”
https://simpleflying.com/qatar-airbus-a380-diver/

synteny 11th Apr 2020 15:53


Originally Posted by Airbubba (Post 10683528)
YMML3-Feb-08-2020-1200Z.mp3

Could anyone still have the ATC recording file in their downloads folder? I've been on the flight and only just discovered this fascinating discussion. Totally intrigued to hear, but it's already gone from the server.

This was my first ever flight on an A380, something I had been looking forward to ever since I was a teen. I remember, as the airplane was speeding down the runway, I kept thinking, would I ever return to Australia? Ironically, that's just what happened. As the plane got airborne, all the vibration and shaking ceased -- it was so heavy that not even turbulence disturbed the flight, and the lights of the city were calmly scrolling across the window. Entertainment screen reported an altitude of 1800 m. Five minutes later we were over the ocean, but still at only 1800 m. We turned, and flew over the city. 10 minutes into the flight the altitude was unchanged. I was suspecting something was going wrong, but there was no indication of any problem. While in other discussions online some passenger reported that at row 72 one could hear a rattling sound of some open bay door, I couldn't hear or feel anything unusual at my seat somewhere around the wing centerline. The passengers were calm, most were watching the movies or falling asleep. At 15 minutes we were still at low altitude and then the captain announced that we "could not retract the landing gear", "the options are dumping fuel and returning to the airport", and that "there's no risk, it's just the gear". "We may not continue the flight since fuel consumption is too high". He sounded calm, comforting, if not annoyed by this unfortunate issue. At this point I was not at all scared, but astonished to realize that it's such a rare event to happen, and now I was a paticipant. We started circling over the sea and dumping fuel. The passengers weren't very concerned, but of course everyone were agitated to certain extent, and stuck to the map on entertainment screens. After the fuel dump completed, the captain announced again, that we were to land in 50 minutes, and that "it will be just a normal landing". He concluded, "and good night to all of you" in a vaguely sarcastic tone. This resolved the tension aboard and everybody broke laughing. There was no emergency landing drill, like customary on some other airlines, we just landed. In the line to immigration back in the terminal a senior lady asked me: "What happened? I fell asleep and now we're back". That sums it up -- nothing spectacular really happened aboard, but left curious memories and I did return to Melbourne for an extra day.

And I have a picture to share, the view of tons of fuel trickling down in moonlight.

Alas, as a new member I can't attach images or post links until I have 10 posts. Hack the link below by replacing '|'s with '/'s to see it:
https :|| yadi.sk | i | E2ifnueV2iPabQ
(or could a moderator attach the image?)

Airbubba 12th Apr 2020 19:22

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Originally Posted by synteny (Post 10746863)
Could anyone still have the ATC recording file in their downloads folder? I've been on the flight and only just discovered this fascinating discussion. Totally intrigued to hear, but it's already gone from the server.

I'll attach an edited version of the LiveATC.net recording from the first 30 minutes of the episode. Since several channels including ground control and clearance delivery are on the original clip some transmissions concerning the Qatari A380 are missed. The audio is in a .zip file that will open on most computers but not on many phones and tablets. As you can hear, this emergency does not require urgent action even though the flight has to return to MEL.


Originally Posted by synteny (Post 10746863)
There was no emergency landing drill, like customary on some other airlines, we just landed. In the line to immigration back in the terminal a senior lady asked me: "What happened? I fell asleep and now we're back". That sums it up -- nothing spectacular really happened aboard, but left curious memories and I did return to Melbourne for an extra day.

I had a similar experience years ago deadheading back to base from Japan on a Northwest B-744. I had been flying around Asia for a few days and decided to forgo an extra day of layover to catch the first flight home.

At rotation the number the three engine started having compressor stalls and sounded like somebody banging on a trash can. I heard the engine being shut down and saw that we were going into the hold to dump fuel. I dozed off and woke up when the gear came down on the approach. I looked at my watch and it appeared that only 15 minutes had elapsed since takeoff. Wow, these guys are good I thought. It turns out that I had forgot to change my watch from China time and we had been airborne for an hour and 15 minutes.

I made a couple of wisecracks about Pratt motors and the well dressed fellow next to me viewed me with great suspicion. I figured out later that he was a nervous flyer and a Federal Air Marshal.

Northwest had a 747-200 available somewhere in theatre that operated the flight uneventfully a few hours later.


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