Originally Posted by cthruit
(Post 10663158)
A plausible scenario is setting fuel jettison to MLW with the intention of reducing landing weight as much as possible, but willing to accept an overweight landing. Then, forgetting to terminate the jettison as the aircraft descended because of a very busy cockpit.
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Originally Posted by Rwy in Sight
(Post 10668216)
Doesn't the system stop without any crew action once a certain amount is dumped?
But if the "certain amount dumped" was intended to get down to MLW, it's hard to see that being achieved by dumping for only 15 minutes. |
Originally Posted by Rwy in Sight
(Post 10668216)
Doesn't the system stop without any crew action once a certain amount is dumped?
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Originally Posted by Spooky 2
(Post 10668225)
No it defaults to what ever fuel it takes to equal the MLW without crew action, BUT the crew can modify this number.
But if the "certain amount dumped" was intended to get down to MLW, it's hard to see that being achieved by dumping for only 15 minutes. |
Originally Posted by Rwy in Sight
(Post 10670649)
So there was not enough time orbiting over the ocean to dump the amount of fuel down to MLW? When did the dumping stop?
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Originally Posted by Rwy in Sight
(Post 10670649)
So there was not enough time orbiting over the ocean to dump the amount of fuel down to MLW? When did the dumping stop?
Don't know as I wasn't there on the flight deck. |
OK once again the incident report would make an interesting reading.
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Originally Posted by Rwy in Sight
(Post 10672241)
OK once again the incident report would make an interesting reading.
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Almost 4 years on, did we ever understand why this Delta aircraft ended up dumping fuel in the manner it did? (Telling ATC they didnt need to, then doing it anyway over a built up area in busy airspace).
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Originally Posted by Havingwings4ever
(Post 10663202)
How close to MTOM do you think this triple was? Assuming full pax and 12 hr flight time. I am not familiar with that a/c, only 767/74.
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Originally Posted by Flyhighfirst
(Post 11566992)
There were only 181 pax onboard. They weren’t even half full.
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EL-AL once dumped fuel at Schiphol immediately after take-off after losing 2 engines on a 747. Unfortunately they didn't make it.
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Originally Posted by FlyingRoland
(Post 11567751)
EL-AL once dumped fuel at Schiphol immediately after take-off after losing 2 engines on a 747. Unfortunately they didn't make it.
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Originally Posted by bean
(Post 11567791)
Severely damaged aircraft with flight control issues. Different scenario
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So, good ole' fashioned American cronyism and corruption means we are never likely to get to the bottom of this?
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Nearly sixty years ago, whilst gliding at RAF Swanton Morley (UK), a Handley-Page Victor dumped fuel all over the gliding circuit traffic on approach to (probably) Coningsby. Six gliders in the air, two crew per hull, open cockpit. Dozen more cadets and RAF personnel on the ground.
Our uniforms reeked of kerosene and our eyes stung a bit, but the CO of the RAF gliding school went apesh*t because, apparently, Jet A1 is an excellent solvent for the glue holding the fabric of our gliders (Slingsby T31, IIRC) together. Pretty sure the Officer Commanding RAF Coningsby would have heard him from circuit height, across the Wash. Anyway, I have never had any health issues as a result of that one-off dousing, and don't know of anyone who was there that day that did. So probably not the end of the world for the kiddies that caught a whiff of the good stuff that reached the ground. It's not like it's an everyday occurrence. |
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