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ERJ 145 off piste at O’Hare
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That runway surface looks suboptimal.
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The inboards came up though. Does it have outboard spoilers? |
Originally Posted by neilki
(Post 10616206)
Also Spoilers, which would have been very helpful. Had they deployed.....
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From the Newspaper
"There was no visibility at all," said passenger Luis Torres Curet. "The first visibility of the city we got it maybe 50 feet from the ground? That's dangerous. You don't need to do that." I assume that Luis Torres would be the first to complain when he can't fly anywhere in winter due to weather at the destination airport.... |
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 10616227)
It looks to me like the ground spoilers did deploy and were stowed as the plane went off the side of the runway.
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Originally Posted by neilki
(Post 10616268)
I'n not a 145 driver but a quick search showed the Ground Spoiler System consists of 4 panels. 2 Inboard, 2 out. While I was watching the video on a phone and the low contrast between the wings and sky made it hard to see the inboards, the outboards absolutely did not pop....
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https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fad7d39912.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ce9ae1a0bd.jpg
Originally Posted by OldnGrounded
(Post 10616270)
That's right. I was able to watch in slow motion and frame-by-frame on my big, hi-res desktop monitors and the outboard spoilers didn't deploy.
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Looks like they got sideways early on in the incident.. very reminiscent of the Delta Mad Dog aiming for Bowery Bay at LGA a few years ago. Loss of directional control due rudder blanking...https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/...ts/AAR1602.pdf
Some discussion over at APC..https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/e...way-video.html Glad to see everyone got off OK, I'd characterize it as a 'Racing Incident' Landing (or taxying) on icy runways can be frightening... |
Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 10616275)
The outboard spoilers on an ERJ-145 aren't supposed to deploy on landing, right?
Edit: Ah. The images in your post just now appeared on my screen, Bubba. |
Anyone else think that the flaps looked to be nearer to a takeoff setting than a landing one? I will state that I'm not familiar with the 145 flap settings available.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 10616275)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fad7d39912.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ce9ae1a0bd.jpg The outboard spoilers on an ERJ-145 aren't supposed to deploy on landing, right? |
I like the comment, “I think we landed” after coming to a stop.
Technically correct. |
Originally Posted by neilki
(Post 10616268)
I'n not a 145 driver but a quick search showed the Ground Spoiler System consists of 4 panels. 2 Inboard, 2 out. While I was watching the video on a phone and the low contrast between the wings and sky made it hard to see the inboards, the outboards absolutely did not pop....
The big part you’re looking at that covers most of the wing isn’t a spoiler. |
Originally Posted by neilki
(Post 10616278)
Landing (or taxying) on icy runways can be frightening...
Lots of flights apparently canceled at O'Hare due to weather, this a.m. Passenger on the incident flight told the local CBS station that they had missed and gone around once before the slippy-slidey landing. |
Remember the Bristol BaCitiExpress EMB145 incident. When the wheels locked, didn't teh spoilers auto stow or something which hastened the departure from the end?
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From the news
The FAA issued a statement saying, "At approximately 7:45 am this morning, an Embraer 145 regional jet arriving from Greensboro, NC, landed at Chicago O'Hare International Airport on Runway 10 Left and slid off the runway while attempting to exit at Taxiway P4. The aircraft's right main landing gear collapsed. Passengers deplaned via air stairs and were placed on a bus to the terminal. No injuries were reported. The FAA will investigate." |
Originally Posted by FrequentSLF
(Post 10616305)
Is P4 the last Taxiway?
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f6a6ba2d05.jpg |
Originally Posted by RVF750
(Post 10616298)
Remember the Bristol BaCitiExpress EMB145 incident. When the wheels locked, didn't teh spoilers auto stow or something which hastened the departure from the end?
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Aviation Herald says that braking action was reported as "medium" at the time, changed to "poor" post-accident.
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