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Lake1952 18th Oct 2019 11:32

Pen Air Saab Overrun Unilaska with Injuries
 
A Pen Air Saab Scandia 2000 off the runway in Unilaska with some injuries. Flight had a schools swim team aboard and was marketed as an Alaska Air flight.

https://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Pl...563346322.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alaska-...ay-2019-10-18/
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Pilot DAR 18th Oct 2019 11:59

New item here:

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2019...laska-airport/

It looks from the photo that the plane departed the runway to the left before reaching the end.

DaveReidUK 18th Oct 2019 12:14

Looks like the Saab ran over the runway end chevrons and went over the edge between the Stop sign and the barrier on the right:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0a963d7642.jpg


DaveReidUK 18th Oct 2019 13:43

Avherald reports only minor injuries, whereas the Anchorage Daily News, Newsweek and CBS report two critically injured pax - can anyone confirm which account is correct ?

Lake1952 18th Oct 2019 14:16

NTSB sending a team of 9 to the site.

AS Blog Statements (Flight operated as an AS flight):
Incident involving PenAir Flight 3296 marketed by Alaska Airlines

Posted: 2:45 a.m. on Oct. 18, 2019

On Thursday at 5:40 p.m. local time, PenAir Flight 3296 was involved in an incident while landing at Dutch Harbor, Alaska.Right now, our highest priority is the safety and care of everyone who was onboard the flight. Our hearts are with them, their families and employees at PenAir.While the aircraft is operated by PenAir and the crew are PenAir employees, this flight was marketed by Alaska Airlines and the passengers are our guests. At this point, we understand 39 passengers and three crew members were onboard. We’re still gathering information about the welfare of those on the flight and the incident itself.We have established a toll-free hotline for anyone who believes they may have a family member or friend onboard. The telephone number, accessible from the United States and Canada, is 1-888-283-2153. A telephone number that’s accessible from Mexico is 001-877-542-6973.We will continue to work closely with PenAir, who is leading the response. This page will be updated as we learn more information. Posted: 10:15 p.m. on Oct.17, 2019 We have established a toll-free hotline for anyone who believes they may have a family member or friend onboard. The telephone number, accessible from the United States and Canada, is 1-888-283-2153. A telephone number that’s accessible from Mexico is 001-877-542-6973. Posted: 9:30 p.m. on Oct. 17, 2019
PenAir Flight 3296 marketed by Alaska Airlines from Anchorage to Dutch Harbor, Alaska was involved in an incident during landing at 5:40 p.m. local time today.There are 39 passengers and three crew members onboard. We’re still gathering information about the welfare of those onboard and the incident itself.PenAir operates the Anchorage-Dutch Harbor service for Alaska with a Saab 2000 aircraft.

Flight 3296 departed Anchorage at 3:15 p.m. local time.


OldnGrounded 18th Oct 2019 15:02


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10597564)
Avherald reports only minor injuries, whereas the Anchorage Daily News, Newsweek and CBS report two critically injured pax - can anyone confirm which account is correct ?

The local community radio station, KUCB, has been reporting two critical, ten total, injuries, all pax.

https://www.kucb.org/post/ntsb-send-...y-injuring-two

Airbubba 18th Oct 2019 15:28


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10597516)
Looks like the Saab ran over the runway end chevrons and went over the edge between the Stop sign and the barrier on the right:

A couple more pictures from social media. I just noticed that these pictures are also in your posting but they are not displayed unless you scroll horizontally on the first picture on some devices.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8867076e44.jpg
Photo by David Howard

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3b97c2c151.jpg
Photo by Jennifer Wynn

Airbubba 18th Oct 2019 18:03

Now a report of one fatality.


Press Release: Penair Crash at Unalaska Airport

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact:
Erin Reinders, City Manager City of Unalaska
(907) 581-1251 – telephone [email protected]

PENAIR CRASH AT UNALASKA AIRPORT

Unalaska, Alaska, October 18, 2019 – On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 5:41 p.m. Unalaska Public Safety officers and Fire/EMS personnel responded to a report of a Saab 2000 aircraft going off the end of the runway while landing at the airport in
Unalaska.

Unalaska Police, Fire and EMS personnel and other emergency responders arrived within five minutes of the event. Unalaska units set up incident command with state assets to manage the incident and assess life and safety issues. Once all safety concerns were identified and mitigated, EMS personnel extracted one patient from the aircraft and completed the evacuation of the remaining passengers. All 39 passengers and crew were accounted for.

The Unalaska Fire Department transported seven patients to the Iliuliuk Clinic and four other patients were brought to the clinic by personal vehicle. Patient injuries ranged from minor to critical. Of the patients transported to the clinic, one was medevaced to Anchorage, and one died of traumatic injuries suffered in the crash. Next of kin has been notified.

Law enforcement has secured the scene pending arrival of NTSB investigators, which may arrive as early as today. The runway and vehicle traffic through the area is shut down until further notice.

Access to Ballyhoo Road is closed and transportation is being coordinated through Unalaska Public Safety. The aircraft may still pose safety risks so the public is asked to stay away from the area.

Updated information will be provided as it becomes available. Thank you for your continued support and patience.




Address/Location
Unalaska Dept. of Public Safety
29 Safety Way
Unalaska, AK 99685


Contact
Emergency: 9-1-1
Non-emergencies: 907-581-1233


Airbubba 18th Oct 2019 18:45

Weather sequence observed a few minutes after the mishap and posted on Av Herald suggests a tailwind for the landing attempt on runway 13.


PADU 180156Z 30021G27KT 5SM -RA BKN039 06/02 A2953 RMK AO2 PK WND 30027/0154 RAB41 SLP004 P0002 T00560017

pattern_is_full 18th Oct 2019 19:37

I would not have thought this would end in a death - assuming everyone was seated and belted.

But - if that #1 prop penetrated the fuselage once it disintegrated on the rocks...... :(

Photos here from the left side do show significant fuselage damage above/at the window line, abeam the prop. Possibly a prop root still embedded after scything upwards through seat area.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-schoo...ry?id=66363658

Lake1952 18th Oct 2019 20:37

Runway length of 4100 ft (1250m) is obviously marginal in any kind of tailwind or runway contamination. Hard to envision the regular use of 732 Combi aircraft into this station that AS carried out before 2004.

mickjoebill 19th Oct 2019 03:23



In describing the fatality, the report uses the term “traumatic injuries”

dash34 19th Oct 2019 07:27

There have been a few deaths from propellor intrusion into the cabin in the last while. Is it not possible to construct a carbon/kevlar panel strong enough to prevent this that would be light enough to install without affecting performance?

Australopithecus 19th Oct 2019 08:20



Nope. They cannot make an engine containment ring strong enough for turbine blades, so imagine the energy in a much heavier object released from the hub. A friend was once torpedoed by a runaway towbar as they we’re taxiing onto the gate in a Convair 580. The engine was already running down when the towbar hit the prop (at 700 rpm). The blade released and ended up 200m away planted vertically in the ramp.

Zeffy 19th Oct 2019 09:51

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7cf6f57277.png
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....32df646c1d.png

unworry 19th Oct 2019 10:57

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9e9ba1f383.jpg
propeller intrusion

Capt Fathom 19th Oct 2019 11:59


What was the point of that?

Zeffy 19th Oct 2019 12:22

The point of posting the approach plate and takeoff mins?

The point of attempting to land under those conditions?

Or the point of designing what amounts to little more than a "cloud-break" procedure?

From AvHerald:

Related NOTAMs:
!DUT 10/064 DUT RWY 13 RWY END ID LGT U/S 1910180706-1910232000EST
!DUT 10/063 DUT RWY 13 VASI U/S 1910180702-1910232000EST
!DUT 10/060 DUT AD AP CLSD 1910180209-1910190209
!DUT 10/062 DUT RWY 13/31 NW 4000FT CLSD EXC MEDEVAC 1910180307-1910190307
!DUT 10/061 DUT RWY 13/31 SE 500FT CLSD 1910180254-1910190254

Metars:
PADU 180356Z VRB04KT 10SM BKN032 BKN042 07/01 A2953 RMK AO2 SLP003 T00670006=
PADU 180256Z 25004KT 10SM BKN035 BKN044 BKN120 07/02 A2952 RMK AO2 RAE14 SLP002 ACSL NE P0002 60004 T00670017 53003=
PADU 180156Z 30021G27KT 5SM -RA BKN039 06/02 A2953 RMK AO2 PK WND 30027/0154 RAB41 SLP004 P0002 T00560017=
PADU 180056Z 31011KT 10SM FEW034 BKN047 BKN060 07/01 A2950 RMK AO2 SLP995 T00720011=
PADU 172356Z 31006KT 10SM BKN036 BKN044 07/01 A2951 RMK AO2 RAB12E25 SLP999 P0000 60000 T00670011 10083 20056 53005=
PADU 172256Z 19008KT 10SM BKN037 BKN047 07/01 A2950 RMK AO2 WSHFT 2210 RAB07E18 SLP994 P0000 T00720011=
PADU 172230Z 28008KT 10SM FEW033 BKN060 07/01 A2950 RMK AO2 WSHFT 2210 RAB07E18 P0000=
PADU 172156Z 25008G22KT 10SM BKN055 08/M01 A2950 RMK AO2 SLP993 T00831006=
PADU 172056Z 29010KT 10SM FEW025 BKN034 BKN049 06/02 A2950 RMK AO2 PK WND 29028/2035 RAB34E51 SLP994 P0000 60000 T00610017 53007=


Capn Bloggs 19th Oct 2019 12:40

Interesting, Zeffy. Not your easy peazy sunny approach, by the looks.

Fathom, back to your C152.

Airbubba 19th Oct 2019 14:51


Originally Posted by Lake1952 (Post 10597906)
Runway length of 4100 ft (1250m) is obviously marginal in any kind of tailwind or runway contamination. Hard to envision the regular use of 732 Combi aircraft into this station that AS carried out before 2004.

The runway is now charted as 4500 feet long. Was it lengthened when it was paved? I remember seeing those Alaska B-737's with the gravel kit in ANC years ago. There are still a couple of B-734 combi's flying for the Department of Energy carrying nuke materials and commandos to guard them.

Would the Saab 2000 be category B for circling?


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