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China is an ICAO member country. The ICAO indicates in Annex 2 that the PIC has final authority for safety of the aircraft and if he determines any actions are under urgent or emergency circumstances, either by a Pan Pan or an Mayday call, then ATC is to provide assistance and has no authority to override the PIC.

Get the aircraft safely to the destination and deal with any diplomatic problems on the ground. I'm sure any Airline would have stood behind their pilots had they deviated due to weather.

Just ask Delta who retired a severally damaged Boeing 744 after a similar hail storm incident a few years ago.

https://www.bizjournals.com › 2015/06/30Web resultsHail pummels Delta's N664US Boeing 747; NWA's "Spirit of Beijing" may face scrapyard (Photos) - Minneapolis / St. Paul Business Journal - The Business Journals

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Originally Posted by Globocnik (Post 10483616)

So, again. Why are you redacting posts. ? Who are you frightened of. ? Or do you need the advertising?

PPRuNE isn't a democracy buddy, it's a commercial operation with considerable financial costs, legal liability and risk.

You are perfectly entitled to take the financial risk & personal liability and have a warts and all discussion by setting up your own forum if you don't like it. Until then we are stuck with what the moderators give us.

No problem with that, Curtain, but be open about it.

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Originally Posted by OK4Wire

No problem with that, Curtain, but be open about it.

Ah, they do with a sticky thread in R&N right at the top Notice regarding post responsibility and anonymity

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27th Nov 2012 until 6th Feb 2106
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What constitutes libelous/defamatory? I'm sure the owners of PPRuNe have to straddle a multitude of jurisdictions who will use all sorts of mean to restrict what they view as unfavourable content. Their legal defence fund can only be so deep and so they censor as they deem fit. Do I agree with it? No, but I see what a great resource it is.

I've personally given some pretty robust criticism of recent events and a US based manufacturer that would be unhappy to read on a public forum that may be judged by the public as expert commentary (not self flattery, just 25+ years in the industry, relative to knowledge of the non-pilot). A few of my posts were deleted, but for the most part they remained.

I have heard from multiple sources that have worked for Chinese airlines that it was ops normal to turn the WX radar off completely. Apparently they are scared of the radiation frying their little swimmers....

Not saying that’s what’s happened here, but it gives you an idea how different the cultural/operational philosophies in this part of the world.