Embraer to be known as Boeing Brazil
Well, the commercial division of Embraer, will be known as Boeing Brasil - Commercial. No decision however has been made to rebrand the ERJ Ejets to ‘Boeing’ however, but I personally like the sound of the Boeing 195. :-) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-embraer-m-a-boeing/boeing-drops-embraer-name-from-brazil-commercial-jet-division- Could Boeing be thinking about supersizing the E195 E2 to 180 seats or more, as a replacement for the 737NG? This might be a good solution to the MAX debacle if public perception about the safety of the MAX remains low. |
Originally Posted by VH DSJ
(Post 10480432)
Could Boeing be thinking about supersizing the E195 E2 to 180 seats or more, as a replacement for the 737NG?
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10480446)
If by "supersizing" you mean stretching, how many seat rows do you think that would have ?
Now, take on the -9 or -10... |
Originally Posted by SteinarN
(Post 10480457)
Well, simple math; 188 seats single class, divided by 4 abreast gives approximately... 47 rows...
Now, take on the -9 or -10... Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's more rows than anyone has ever put in a narrow-body airliner. Even the longest DC-8 stretch only had about 44 rows, and of course that was a 6-abreast cabin. A 188-seat, 4-abreast cabin would be an operational nightmare. |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10480446)
If by "supersizing" you mean stretching, how many seat rows do you think that would have ?
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How about a “Bendy Bus” layout so it could rotate and go round corners ? I’ll get my coat. |
"If it's not Embraer, I ain't going there"?
Jack |
Even the longest DC-8 stretch only had about 44 rows, and of course that was a 6-abreast cabin. I wouldn't expect to see a 47 row narrow body airliner! |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10480446)
If by "supersizing" you mean stretching, how many seat rows do you think that would have ?
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Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
(Post 10480582)
I wouldn't expect to see a 47 row narrow body airliner! |
I put in my vote for calling the EMJ the B-220.
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Originally Posted by VH DSJ
(Post 10480684)
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10480446)
If by "supersizing" you mean stretching
I'd only got as far as working out that you didn't mean a bigger burger with more fries. :O |
Here you go!
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....395ca3c160.jpg No, I don't mean stretching. I mean a larger fuselage about the same size as the 737, but using the design and technology of the E2. Why else would Boeing be interested in buying Embraer's commercial division? The regional aircraft market has never been their niche. |
Originally Posted by VH DSJ
(Post 10480684)
Why else would Boeing be interested in buying Embraer's commercial division? The regional aircraft market has never been their niche.
And of course Boeing kept the MD-95 when they bought McD, renamed as the 717. Which was basically a throwback to McD's own "regional" entry of the 1960s - the original unstretched DC-9. The B717 replaced QANTAS's BAe-146 regionals, and is the "regional" (intrastate) jet for Hawaiian. Delta uses theirs on "regional-like" routes, and was happy to snap up airTran's 717s after its merger with SWA. However, that doesn't mean Boeing can't use fresh ideas in the "even-smaller" end of the market. The 736 hasn't been a great seller, nor was the B717 overall. |
I'm neither pro Airbus or Boeing. However, I can't help thinking that the rushed MAX (following the NEO), and the Embraer deal (after Airbus/Bombardier) are panic moves by a company whose executives have lost the plot and can only try and survive by trying desperately to keep up with their neighbours, so to speak.
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Why would Embraer want to be know as Boeing Brazil, given that the name Boeing is somewhat tainted at the moment.
How about re-naming Boeing as Embraer USA? |
Consider the Delta order, what 90 of them so far, ..replacing their E fleet...
While they have renamed it Boeing Brazil, what about the aircraft designation? |
Cooperplace
You don't hear many complaints from Condor Passengers about the B753. Perhaps it's more to do with the airline. |
Originally Posted by Pilot DAR
(Post 10480582)
I wouldn't expect to see a 47 row narrow body airliner!
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I have travelled on Condor 757-300 several times during the last six months. There is nothing wrong with the cabin, the seats are comfortable. Hope they will be able to operate them for quite a while.
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