WestJet pilot injured by green laser, placed on medical leave
A WestJet pilot flying from Newfoundland to Orlando International Airport had his eyes burned by a green laser light, U.S. Federal Aviation Administration officials said Wednesday.
Spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said in an email that the WestJet Airlines aircraft was about 40 kilometres from the airport when the laser light hit the pilot. The flight landed safely a short time later, and the pilot was placed on medical leave, which is routine in such cases. The airline said in a statement that the incident took place Saturday but gave few details, citing privacy concerns. Full article here: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/westjet...ando-1.4432362 |
These incidents are more frequent and dangerous. There was an incident at RCAF Base Shearwater NS Canada last week involving a CP140 Aurora which aborted take off. The perpetrators of these attacks should be dealt with severely. |
Amendment to the Law:
Attempted mass murder?
Terrorism? Both! Simple rely. |
Are there any airports that are famous for getting lots of these? I recall london city being a top culprit, further afield i also know of Algiers and Tunis being subject to regular laser attacks.
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Corfu, Glasgow (23)
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Nobody invented reflective laser-proof aviator glasses yet?
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Originally Posted by Graham Borland
(Post 10477354)
Nobody invented reflective laser-proof aviator glasses yet?
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I've seen some pretty ridiculous things but yet to meet someone wear sunglasses at night ... yet. I got 'hit' by a green laser a few years ago, only briefly and from 150m away approx, it affected my vision for a few days. |
Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack
(Post 10477387)
You obviously haven't been in Italy.
I got 'hit' by a green laser a few years ago, only briefly and from 150m away approx, it affected my vision for a few days. |
I got hit on several occasions while teaching NVFR on SEP, even though I saw them coming and try to stare away that tiny fraction of time it's enought for a headache and long minutes of being glared.
I always reported to the ACC or TWR who informed the local police. A sad thing. |
Originally Posted by bill fly
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Spelt with a or with @. Some kind of code? Links to at least one somewhat popular website get changed too. http://aviationarchives.********.com...ht-manual.html |
In the CBC article here:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfo...aser-1.5144981 They are saying: "When any sort of light enters the flight deck, pilots are trained to look away and maintain focus but they must also remain vigilant with respect to their surroundings and monitor the apron prior to landing." (My emphasis) Is this some sort of new procedure with which I am not familiar? |
Originally Posted by ve3id
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In the CBC article here:
and monitor the apron prior to landing." (My emphasis) Is this some sort of new procedure with which I am not familiar? |
Originally Posted by A320LGW
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Are there any airports that are famous for getting lots of these? I recall london city being a top culprit, further afield i also know of Algiers and Tunis being subject to regular laser attacks.
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And in Japan: https://japantoday.com/category/crim...n-tokyo-suburb |
Larnaca has had a high incidence in the past. Happened to me there. |
Originally Posted by A320LGW
(Post 10477345)
Are there any airports that are famous for getting lots of these? I recall london city being a top culprit, further afield i also know of Algiers and Tunis being subject to regular laser attacks.
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite
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I've seen some pretty ridiculous things but yet to meet someone wear sunglasses at night ... yet. They tried laser reflecting / dispersing screens but that didn't really work with the different angles involved. There are now laser proof glasses that can be worn at night. Totally complaint with Airbus cockpits. Honeywell make some. Google for them, but doesn't say what cockpits they are compliant with. |
What’s needed is a laser system for civil. aircraft that automatically fires back. |
Originally Posted by Sunfish
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Whats needed is a laser system for civil. aircraft that automatically fires back. |
We were ląsered on the ramp at Bodrum........from a passenger in the plane on the stand next to us !!! PS I have never been trained to look away from a ląser. I have been told, but that is not the same as being trained and practised. |
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Originally Posted by IBMJunkman
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Where a teenager pointed a laser to a ..... CF-18 Talk about being dumb! Teen got target designated by its pilot right away. But not vaporized! :E They arrested him. |
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite
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I've seen some pretty ridiculous things but yet to meet someone wear sunglasses at night ... yet. |
Originally Posted by Graham Borland
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Nobody invented reflective laser-proof aviator glasses yet?
Laser Safety & Laser Glare Prevention | Metamaterial Technologies |
Originally Posted by bill fly
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Spelt with a or with @. Some kind of code? |
Originally Posted by hoss183
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Of course you need to select the correct glasses for the wavelength expected, but most of these attacks seem to be the 550nm green. They only have to filter a small part of the colour spectrum.
2. Coatings with high reflectivity in only a narrow spectral range have a significant angular dependence, i.e. they only work for specific angles. Therefore laser goggles tend to be rather broad range, which means (in the visible) they are tinted (reddish, for example). I think this is going to be unacceptable in a work environment which amongst other things relies on color cues. |
Just out of interest, has anyone ever tried doing an Ishihara test with these l@ser-proof goggles on?
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My employer company users lasers, the largest of which is rated at 150 Watts, in its products and we operate a laser test range in KonTum Province in VietNam. Our range, several kilometres in length, at 5,000 feet, is used to develop military applications.
Most of the lasers used to 'flash' aircraft are rated at less than 0.5 Watt. Human eyes are more sensitive to green lasers as opposed to red lasers. Furthermore, the laser optics cannot be focused at greater than around 500 feet given the poor quality of the lenses. What is described as 'burned' is impossible even at a couple of thousand feet. The complaints are based more on the bodies reaction, in other words a psychological reaction rather than a physiological reaction. I have been at the 'hot' end of a 150W laser, 1 kilometre distant, and suffered no injuries. Back in the 1960s there was an experiment at Hamilton Airport , Ontario (IATA Code: YHM, ICAO Code: CYHM) using high powered gas lasers to drive birds from runways. It failed, although we did enjoy many chicken and turkey dinners! |
'Laser-proof' eye wear, yes - and cheaper than Aviator glasses.
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any news on how the affected pilot is doing?
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Originally Posted by DakLak
(Post 10492525)
My employer company users lasers, the largest of which is rated at 150 Watts, in its products and we operate a laser test range in KonTum Province in VietNam. Our range, several kilometres in length, at 5,000 feet, is used to develop military applications.
Most of the lasers used to 'flash' aircraft are rated at less than 0.5 Watt. Human eyes are more sensitive to green lasers as opposed to red lasers. Furthermore, the laser optics cannot be focused at greater than around 500 feet given the poor quality of the lenses. What is described as 'burned' is impossible even at a couple of thousand feet. The complaints are based more on the bodies reaction, in other words a psychological reaction rather than a physiological reaction. I have been at the 'hot' end of a 150W laser, 1 kilometre distant, and suffered no injuries. Back in the 1960s there was an experiment at Hamilton Airport , Ontario (IATA Code: YHM, ICAO Code: CYHM) using high powered gas lasers to drive birds from runways. It failed, although we did enjoy many chicken and turkey dinners! |
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The low power (pointer)laser power ratings are usually inaccurate. The output can be raised by changing the value of a resistor - details on many YouTubes.
But, without exception, the optics (focusing) on these low end devices are very poor - usually of plastic. On our KonTum laser range, up in the mountains, we can place a laser under test and examine a target that can be moved about a kilometre so we can examine the beam dispersion caused by poor lens. Our high-end lasers (100 Watt++) use glass lens and the dispersion is minimal but the 'burn' effect is still minimal at distance over 1000 metres. |
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