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martinmsjogren 10th Mar 2019 14:01

Air France A380 lost engine
 
Last night an Air France Airbus A380 from Abidjan to Paris lost an engine and had to turn around, and landed safely in Abidjan. See flightaware

Im just wondering why this isnt mentioned in news hardly anywhere. Is it less of a big deal when an A380 loses an engine than what Id think?

It is top news on Ivory Coast's main news site (abidjan net) but I cant see it anywhere else.

ASRAAMTOO 10th Mar 2019 14:30

Do you mean “lost” as in it fell off and is missing, or do you mean it was shut down, and the aircraft flew safely on the three remaining engines.

The first is clearly cause for concern, the second rates about as much news coverage as it seems to be getting

VH DSJ 10th Mar 2019 14:32

Geesh, I hope they find the lost engine. These things aren't cheap!

martinmsjogren 10th Mar 2019 14:53


Originally Posted by ASRAAMTOO (Post 10412430)
Do you mean “lost” as in it fell off and is missing, or do you mean it was shut down, and the aircraft flew safely on the three remaining engines.
The first is clearly cause for concern, the second rates about as much news coverage as it seems to be getting

I dont know. The news article I found just said "lost" without specifying.

ATC Watcher 10th Mar 2019 15:04

If it fell in the Suburbs of Abidjan the chances of finding it back is remote, probably already dismantled and parts used to make something else..:)

Capn Bloggs 10th Mar 2019 15:07

3 4 the long haul! "Press on, Monsieur!"

Joe_K 10th Mar 2019 15:07


Originally Posted by ASRAAMTOO (Post 10412430)
Do you mean “lost” as in it fell off and is missing, or do you mean it was shut down, and the aircraft flew safely on the three remaining engines.

Randomly clicking the first link on Google about this yields:
"Un porte-parole d'Air France à Paris joint par l'AFP a précisé que "Techniquement , c'est ce qu'on appelle un pompage réacteur. C'est une avarie moteur qui est connue" '...) "Ca peut être lié à l'ingestion d'un oiseau par un réacteur au décollage"."
Which loosely translates as "it was an engine surge" and "could have been to do with ingestion of a bird".
Would appear to be a non-event and not news worthy.

jurassicjockey 10th Mar 2019 16:37

Beware the confusion over a "lost" engine. The ambiguity didn't help American 191 in Chicago when the engine physically separated from the airframe on departure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nes_Flight_191

Super VC-10 10th Mar 2019 18:04

It's OK, after a short search they found it attached to a wing.

guadaMB 10th Mar 2019 18:12


Originally Posted by Super VC-10 (Post 10412621)
It's OK, after a short search they found it attached to a wing.

Attached to a wing of an LH A-380... :hmm:


Webby737 10th Mar 2019 18:26


Originally Posted by CargoOne (Post 10412585)
Some pilots prefer to land in Shiraz, others prefer Abidjan to CDG/BCN/TLS - more often than not they are not paid enough to think about pax convenience and aircraft recovery cost.

Abidjan would not be a problem.
Air France have a maintenance line station there and there's plenty of reasonable hotels nearby for the pax.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable decision to me.

CargoOne 10th Mar 2019 20:24


Originally Posted by Webby737 (Post 10412645)
Abidjan would not be a problem.
Air France have a maintenance line station there and there's plenty of reasonable hotels nearby for the pax.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable decision to me.

Line station is fine but it has a limited value if you have to change the engine on A380. I do not remember what maindeck capacity serves Abidjan today but I suspect the engine will have to end up on expensive charter flight along with AOG team, and passengers in hotels while pushing to BCN/TLS, let alone CDG will feature much less disruption and cost associated. So if that was a clearly isolated problem with one engine, I keep my opinion whether this was a reasonable decision after all.

Romeo E.T. 10th Mar 2019 20:39

from twitter

[img] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1Txk2nX4AACSwX.jpg

dixi188 10th Mar 2019 21:39

Can you do a three engine ferry flight with an A380?

Groundloop 10th Mar 2019 21:45


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 10412840)
Can you do a three engine ferry flight with an A380?

Yes. The one that had the major engine failure (ie lost the fan in flight over Greenland) and diverted to Goose Bay had a non-operating engine attached and did a 3-engine ferry flight pack to Paris.

Herod 10th Mar 2019 21:51


Can you do a three engine ferry flight with an A380?
Unless the rules have changed since my day, yes. But that only gets the aircraft back. Ferry would be without passengers.

Lake1952 10th Mar 2019 22:01

It will be a three engine ferry or else fire up the Antonov!

TOGA Tap 10th Mar 2019 22:10

That was heavy damage with the potential to get even worse with time. Good decision Captain!

golfyankeesierra 11th Mar 2019 01:53

Those African bird strikes are a complete different ball game (not joking). Sully’s geese are pigeons compared to some of those.

pilotguy1222 11th Mar 2019 04:07


Originally Posted by ASRAAMTOO (Post 10412430)
Do you mean “lost” as in it fell off and is missing, or do you mean it was shut down, and the aircraft flew safely on the three remaining engines.

The first is clearly cause for concern, the second rates about as much news coverage as it seems to be getting

based on the pictures, lost is much more accurate description.


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