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STN Ramp Rat 1st Mar 2019 19:54

Laudamotion Evacuation at Stansted
 
It appears that a Laudamotion A320 has put all the passengers down the chutes on to the Stansted runway after landing. no more details at this time but I am sure it will all become clear soon. obviously the airport is closed at the moment

bucoops 1st Mar 2019 20:02

Aborted TO by the looks of things (twitter). Can't post a URL yet.

Airbubba 1st Mar 2019 20:12

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....360d951087.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....11c755fa93.jpg


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0f902b15c2.jpg

TAY_Matt 1st Mar 2019 20:24

I saw it happen from my office window.

Huge yellow flame from the port side engine, lasted about 4 seconds, and then a large burst of white sparks, similar to when you see welding taking place, but they 'spat out' rather then fell out the back of the engine.

Looked like the aircraft moved a few feet before aborting, no real speed had built up at all.

DublinPole 1st Mar 2019 20:59

Check out he history on FR24, did a flight on 26th, then did a non revenue service flight to Dusseldorf on 27th, went back to Vienna on non revenue flight on 1st March before starting to run in commercial service again which was the Vienna to Stansted leg.

Would be curious if some issue was identified earlier that was thought to be resolved but was not?

DaveReidUK 1st Mar 2019 21:44

Media reports sound like a surge on No 2 engine leading to a RTO. The usual handful of minor injuries during the evac.

uncle dickie 1st Mar 2019 21:57

AAIB have deployed a team

tdracer 2nd Mar 2019 00:56


Looked like the aircraft moved a few feet before aborting, no real speed had built up at all.
Evacuation on the runway seems rather extreme for a low speed RTO - I wonder if there was more to it than an engine surge...

PastTense 2nd Mar 2019 02:31

I thought it was rather extreme that they waited 3 hours before reopening the runway (their only one):
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...borted-takeoff

compressor stall 2nd Mar 2019 02:44


Originally Posted by wtsmg (Post 10404364)
Rev unlock or uncontained failure? I can't think why else only one clamshell would appear to be open.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....95e62855fb.png

I think the top reverser door is open - hence the slightly distorted D. The lighting blends the door into the nacelle.

I guess this means that the TLs were still at REV IDLE when the masters were switched off.

Good Business Sense 2nd Mar 2019 08:37


Originally Posted by tdracer (Post 10404397)
Evacuation on the runway seems rather extreme for a low speed RTO - I wonder if there was more to it than an engine surge...

Yeh, I was wondering why too - interesting !

cats_five 2nd Mar 2019 08:43


Originally Posted by PastTense (Post 10404427)
I thought it was rather extreme that they waited 3 hours before reopening the runway (their only one):
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...borted-takeoff

I don't think they were sitting doing nothing for 3 hours.

MATELO 2nd Mar 2019 09:19


Originally Posted by PastTense (Post 10404427)
I thought it was rather extreme that they waited 3 hours before reopening the runway (their only one):
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...borted-takeoff


Originally Posted by cats_five (Post 10404597)
I don't think they were sitting doing nothing for 3 hours.

Given the short duration of travel time, would they have kept it closed for AAIB to have a look??

rog747 2nd Mar 2019 09:53

Saw photos shot soon after the EVAC showing scenes around the A320 and behind it, and on the runway looked like a load of bits and pieces - so did the engine cough out it's guts?

flyfan 2nd Mar 2019 14:33

There is a video on youtube in which it sounds like an engine or the APU is still running...shouldn‘t be the case if the FD initiated an Evac in my oppinion - or am I wrong here?

austrian71 2nd Mar 2019 15:06

Evac. with no fire and running engine ? - I am interested for the final report, dont wanna to spread sth around before, but I am sure Ryanair will have a detailed look into their new "baby" LaudaMotion specially after this.

freshgasflow 2nd Mar 2019 16:04

How : engine surge on take off roll
 
Grateful if someone here can explain to me (SLF) how can a engine surge happen during a take of roll ? After all, isn't there enough forward motion to ensure enough airflow into the engine intake ? Thank you.

lomapaseo 2nd Mar 2019 16:11


Originally Posted by austrian71 (Post 10404952)
Evac. with no fire and running engine ? - I am interested for the final report, dont wanna to spread sth around before, but I am sure Ryanair will have a detailed look into their new "baby" LaudaMotion specially after this.

There is always the possibility that the cabin reported a visible engine fire (out the tailpipe) and a desire to evacuate immediately. The pilots would probably have secured the engine as soon as they stopped (EGT pegged)

I'm not sure that any of this is bad (in this case)

Paranoid 2nd Mar 2019 16:30

Of course we are not sure who initiated the Evacuation.
In some Airlines (i.e. BA) Cabin Crew can initiate an Evacuation.

pilotmike 2nd Mar 2019 17:00


Originally Posted by freshgasflow (Post 10405015)
Grateful if someone here can explain to me (SLF) how can a engine surge happen during a take of roll ? After all, isn't there enough forward motion to ensure enough airflow into the engine intake ? Thank you.

As take off roll (usually) starts from being on stop, initially there is no ram air except for any headwind. The ground roll, especially at low speed, is one of the most likely times for such a surge. In this case, it seems this is very much the case, from one of the earliest posts from an eye witness:

Looked like the aircraft moved a few feet before aborting, no real speed had built up at all.
So it is unclear what exactly is your point, which is worded to appear as a rhetorical question.

In this particular incident, the same witness also reported seeing:

Huge yellow flame from the port side engine, lasted about 4 seconds, and then a large burst of white sparks, similar to when you see welding taking place, but they 'spat out' rather then fell out the back of the engine.
This indicates it is highly likely to have been a mechanical disintegration from within the engine, in which case any discussion about natural surges caused simply by insufficient airflow appear to be completely irrelevant.


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