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hard_landing 17th Feb 2019 22:27


Originally Posted by solent (Post 10392907)
Call me a cynic but, the sister company just happens to be able the next day after FlyBMI’s demise to offer some of the routes it used to do.

The sister company over the last few months just happens to take on the E135/E145 type to its AOC and took 2 aircraft plus support from said sister company and are now fully up and running then the owners who own the sister company put FlyBMI down.

This has been in the planning for a while and the poor staff have paid for it with their jobs. Let’s hope they all get new jobs as fast as humanly possible.

Really poor from the owners. Good luck all.


I hear there are a lot of the pilots being offered jobs with Loganair (100+) and that induction courses are starting VERY soon for them

deltahotel 18th Feb 2019 18:04

Back on topic. DHL still recruiting, possibly for EMA.

Doug E Style 19th Feb 2019 06:14

This thread is about Flybmi closing down. Climate change arguments belong elsewhere.

Bucket 20th Feb 2019 09:58


Originally Posted by Icanseeclearly (Post 10392617)
Not sure Loganair have the aircraft to just pick the routes up, hopefully it will mean they will take some of Flybmi’s aircraft crews and engineers. The fact they operate the Embraer should make it fairly straightforward to achieve this.

They were Ex BMI aircraft to start with!

INKJET 21st Feb 2019 11:03

Rumour has it that the ERJ positioned back into Norwich and they had already started the repaint to Logan air colours before midnight, Logan air parent company also owned flybmi.

Likewise two senior flybmi ABZ based trainers started their employment with Logan Air the very next day.

Regional flying is no longer viable in most of the UK, a combination of high APD which they catch on both legs, what demand there is in early and late in the day, meaning two lots of crews doing at best 2 or 3 sectors a day, something that pushes up the cost to amongst the highest in the industry in this country at least.
Sure there is money to be made flying between the likes of EDI LGW/LHR but not on a 50 seater.

mikehammer 21st Feb 2019 11:36

A spokesperson for Loganair said: ‘Loganair and Flybmi, which has unfortunately ceased trading, are two completely separate companies with different booking systems. Due to strict rules around data protection, Loganair is unable to access Flybmi’s passenger details or payment information.’

Yet they managed to speak to and recruit the very next day??? I wonder how they got contact details of staff 🤔🤔🤔🤔

mikehammer 21st Feb 2019 11:37

Full article here

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/02...ments-limited/

ifu05596 21st Feb 2019 13:38

Not sure why so much negativity on Loganair here. They were always due to receive one more of each so it could have been one of those. Additionally it’s my understanding that bmi regional leased the aircraft from the parent (as they received cash for them years ago) so AIL is now simply leasing them to Loganair - nothing funny going on there. Given they are in the same group I’m happy that it got moving so quickly, wouldn’t want the employees to be left in limbo while waiting for the legals.

i say smart move re staffing, why not? You can find a lot of people on LinkedIn and by lifting the phone, no need to be accessing HR records...

Suggesting the Loganair directors knew that bmi regional was trading insolvently is quite serious and I highly doubt that to be the case. As far as I can see they are run as autonomous businesses. Much like Dorothy Perkins and Topshop in Arcadia and Iberia and BA in IAG.

Hotel Tango 21st Feb 2019 15:29

People see conspiracies everywhere. It's really quite tiring! :zzz:

mikehammer 21st Feb 2019 17:43

Post #68
 

. .....You can find a lot of people on LinkedIn and by lifting the phone, no need to be accessing HR records...
Who suggested that?

ifu05596 21st Feb 2019 18:17


Originally Posted by mikehammer (Post 10396834)
Who suggested that?

It was my interpretation of your post actually. I read it as a rhetorical question over Loganair's procurement of staff details. Apologies if I misunderstood.

750XL 21st Feb 2019 18:20

BMI was a small airline, it didn't take long for word to pass round that Loganair were willing to take people on...

Blackfriar 21st Feb 2019 19:38


Originally Posted by INKJET (Post 10396506)
Rumour has it that the ERJ positioned back into Norwich and they had already started the repaint to Logan air colours before midnight, Logan air parent company also owned flybmi.

Likewise two senior flybmi ABZ based trainers started their employment with Logan Air the very next day.

Regional flying is no longer viable in most of the UK, a combination of high APD which they catch on both legs, what demand there is in early and late in the day, meaning two lots of crews doing at best 2 or 3 sectors a day, something that pushes up the cost to amongst the highest in the industry in this country at least.
Sure there is money to be made flying between the likes of EDI LGW/LHR but not on a 50 seater.

you say there is no demand early and late, yet I fly BRS-BFS out at 0700 and back at 2145, sometimes later. That’s a 320 or 319, double or triple daily and competing with services from BHX and EXT as well. If it didn’t make money Easy wouldn’t fly it. So that’s four sectors plus whatever the aircraft does in between. No point flying Scotland to MAN or BHX as the train is quicker when you account for security and parking and taxis and you can work for 4 hours on the train.

mikehammer 21st Feb 2019 23:02


It was my interpretation of your post actually. I read it as a rhetorical question over Loganair's procurement of staff details. Apologies if I misunderstood.
Thank goodness for interpretation being inadmissible 😀

Apologies accepted. 😉

NutLoose 26th Feb 2019 13:41

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7915/...05c82102_c.jpg

Deep and fast 26th Feb 2019 20:00


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10400983)

Like business air all over again. Just missing the Granite call sign...

Bueno Hombre 27th Feb 2019 09:41

"middle of nowhere" might be nice.
Think and go back to our young dreams of being a pilot.

red9 27th Feb 2019 15:59

That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????

kkbuk 27th Feb 2019 16:16


Originally Posted by red9 (Post 10402054)
That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????

As I seem to remember it, Scotland is still part of the union!

Cat Techie 27th Feb 2019 23:01


Originally Posted by red9 (Post 10402054)
That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????


I can hear a pilot talking.. Whom knows sod all about ATA 11. Rebranding airframes costs a small fortune. Bigger than your ego.


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