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ORAC 31st Jan 2019 14:06

New Russian Supersonic Jet
 
https://www.rt.com/business/450231-r...passenger-jet/

Russia to bring back the supersonic passenger airliner


The United Aviation Corporation (UAC) will develop Russia’s newest supersonic passenger jet starting 2022, according to the Russian Ministry of Industry, over five decades after launching supersonic travel with the Tupolev Tu-144.The flight simulator demonstrating the new jet’s capabilities should be developed within three years, said Denis Manturov, the head of the ministry........


Asturias56 31st Jan 2019 14:11

Another flight of fancy...............

Less Hair 31st Jan 2019 14:19

What is their market?

AndoniP 31st Jan 2019 14:28

"launched supersonic travel" puts a nice spin on things

mach2.6 31st Jan 2019 14:30

Concordski 2.0
 
Concordski 2.0. YGBSM

DaveReidUK 31st Jan 2019 14:52


Originally Posted by AndoniP (Post 10376512)
"launched supersonic travel" puts a nice spin on things

Well technically that's true, I suppose.

RT's "over five decades after launching supersonic travel " is a reference to its first flight in December 1968, nine weeks before Concorde first flew. So, notwithstanding its troubled history, it did set several precedents (including first M2+ airliner).

Whenever the subject of the Tu-144 comes up, I'm reminded (and ashamed) of the schadenfreude expressed by my aerodynamics lecturer at uni (a Pole, who shall be nameless) when teaching us the morning after the Paris crash which killed 8 people on the ground, including 3 kids, as well as the crew.

The Ancient Geek 31st Jan 2019 16:38

Someone added too much lightness.
It should not be possible to pull the wings off in a steep turn.

BoostTheBoost 31st Jan 2019 17:24

Didn't I read somewhere that they "removed" the limits to the elevons to make a more impressive flight demonstration? That's what caused the canard failures?

RHSandLovingIt 31st Jan 2019 18:41


Originally Posted by mach2.6 (Post 10376514)
Concordski 2.0. YGBSM

Username checks out. :}

Rocket2 31st Jan 2019 19:06

"Didn't I read somewhere that they "removed" the limits to the elevons to make a more impressive flight demonstration? That's what caused the canard failures?"

That or trying to avoid the Mirage(?) that was allegedly flying in & out of the cloud above photographing it.

Saw it the day before when it was first on line ahead of Concorde, the next day they swapped slots. Not biased but the Concorde display was far more energetic than the 144 on the Saturday. Whatever caused it it was a tragic accident.

DroneDog 31st Jan 2019 19:25

I hope they build it, it will force the West into building our own.

c52 31st Jan 2019 20:19

So Mr Putin sees a bomber and wonders if it can carry passengers instead of bombs, and Mr Tupolev says, Why! What a wonderful idea, Mr President! I wish my design team was as brilliant as you!

boguing 31st Jan 2019 23:43


Originally Posted by DroneDog (Post 10376802)
I hope they build it, it will force the West into building our own.

Watching the last Concord flights into Heathrow, my 7 year old son said 'I'm going to design the replacement'.

He's in his 3rd year of AeroEng now. Masters next.

jantar99 1st Feb 2019 05:33

Mr Tupolev is long gone, unfortunately

reverserunlocked 1st Feb 2019 08:09

Meanwhile, hasn’t Cityjet just parked the last SSJ? Comes to something when your jet is outclassed by CRJs and a bunch of ancient Jumbolinos.

DaveReidUK 1st Feb 2019 08:53


Originally Posted by reverserunlocked (Post 10377145)
Meanwhile, hasn’t Cityjet just parked the last SSJ? Comes to something when your jet is outclassed by CRJs and a bunch of ancient Jumbolinos.

Yes - three are parked at Shannon, two at Dublin and the other pair have gone back to Venice.

A shame as they were reportedly popular with passengers, but let down by a combination of technical issues and allegedly abysmal product support.

meleagertoo 1st Feb 2019 11:22

That 'info' comes from a far from credible source though. The content of that webite is ony marginally higher than Sunday Sport.
It's gonna happen, apparently, because Putain suggested a Tu160 could be converted into an airliner! Aha! The Great Leader has spoken! And with such technical insight and authority too!

DaveReidUK 1st Feb 2019 12:05


Originally Posted by meleagertoo (Post 10377302)
That 'info' comes from a far from credible source though. The content of that webite is ony marginally higher than Sunday Sport.
It's gonna happen, apparently, because Putain suggested a Tu160 could be converted into an airliner! Aha! The Great Leader has spoken! And with such technical insight and authority too!

The article does contain the following quote:


"The United Aviation Corporation (UAC) will develop Russia’s newest supersonic passenger jet starting 2022, according to the Russian Ministry of Industry"
But then again, if you're the head of a Government ministry in today's Russia, it's probably a good idea to tell the President what he wants to hear. :O

Less Hair 1st Feb 2019 12:17

I think what the minister said is that he will decide within three years IF at all they launch it or not.

Brat 1st Feb 2019 14:53

Fake News??


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