Originally Posted by Octane
(Post 10271999)
I don't get it either. The wall looks to be 6 ft tall max, how could the landing gear not take it out? Surely the gear could not be stowed at an altitude of 6 ft?!
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India has many crews who, whilst having paid for their licences, certainly didn't earn them. The corruption within the DGCA has been widely reported.
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From what I heard At lift off the captain's seat got seat moved back from its position resulting in yoke going up and in reflex captain pushed the yoke which pushed the aircraft's nose down, resulting in these unfortunate incident.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10272149)
Simple geometry.
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Originally Posted by daved123
(Post 10272362)
Not a pilot here, but looking at the pic on BBC report, the belly gash looks to be situated between the L/R MLG, not further aft.
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Originally Posted by Rider320
(Post 10272359)
From what I heard At lift off the captain's seat got seat moved back from its position resulting in yoke going up and in reflex captain pushed the yoke which pushed the aircraft's nose down, resulting in these unfortunate incident.
Originally Posted by DavereidUK
Reports suggest that it was the belly of the aircraft that hit the localizer antenna, but the question asked was what had impacted the wall, which was the rear fuselage.
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Definition of an airport - A clear space surrounded by obstacles
How could it pressurize with those gashes? |
This is the best view I've found of the wall.
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Originally Posted by short bus
(Post 10272404)
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Originally Posted by short bus
(Post 10272404)
This is the best view I've found of the wall.
That seems to negate the earlier suggestion that the two holes in the wall were too close together to have been produced by the mains - they appear to be consistent with the 737NG's track (5.72 m). |
tonytales,
By the look of damage from the existing photos on here, it is only superficial damage in and around the wheel wells and keel beam area and the fuselage pressure vessel has not been punctured/ruptured hence no loss of pressurisation (that we know of ???) By the look of the damage on the brick wall, I'd say both gears came into contact with the wall. Soooooo lucky that this was not a disastrous outcome!!! McHale. |
From what I heard At lift off the captain's seat got seat moved back from its position |
Originally Posted by krismiler
(Post 10272532)
Anyone who flew older single engine Cessnas would know all about this. |
Can anyone run these numbers? 738, trip length 1590nm/2491km, runway length 2427m/7963 feet, OAT 83F/23C.
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How could it pressurize with those gashes? |
The picture of the wall says either a lot about the strength of Mr Boeing's aircraft or not a lot about the building skills of Indian bricklayers.
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Did the wheels actually strike the wall or did they catch the chain link wire pulling out the supports and the sections of the wall they were embedded into?
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Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 10272607)
The picture of the wall says either a lot about the strength of Mr Boeing's aircraft or not a lot about the building skills of Indian bricklayers.
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Can anyone run these numbers? 738, trip length 1590nm/2491km, runway length 2427m/7963 feet, OAT 83F/23C. Assuming about 13T of gas, 170pax, nil wind, 26k engines, bleeds on, it would be at 35ft about 100m prior to the end of the runway using an assumed temp of 39 degrees. If they wanted to use full thrust it would be at 35ft about 400m prior to the end of the runway. V2 of about 150. There are potentially other variables that would make quite a big difference though. |
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