GATWICK northern runway
There is a rumour that a twin engined jet took off as cleared using the northern runway recently at Gatwick and only just cleared hardware at the eastern end. Does anybody know anything about this?
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Originally Posted by interpreter
(Post 10267847)
There is a rumour that a twin engined jet took off as cleared using the northern runway recently at Gatwick and only just cleared hardware at the eastern end. Does anybody know anything about this?
At least one similar incident (SunWing 737 at BFS) was only picked up after substantial delay and in that case there was damage to ground equipment. There are plenty of Spotter's reports of aircraft only just airborne at end of strip which are down to optical illusions and/or normal operation of flex thrust or t/o from an intersection. I guess if there was an incident it will be reported in AAIB Bulletin in due course. |
Originally Posted by interpreter
(Post 10267847)
There is a rumour that a twin engined jet took off as cleared using the northern runway recently at Gatwick and only just cleared hardware at the eastern end. Does anybody know anything about this?
As for "hardware at the eastern end" of the northern runway, it's hard to see what that could have been. You could roll for another kilometer beyond the end of the 08L TORA and unless you were unlucky enough to encounter a taxying aircraft, the first thing you would hit would be the jetties on stands 4/5. If you really do mean that a departing aircraft only just cleared one on the ground, I think we would have heard about it by now without waiting for an AAIB report. |
Originally Posted by Airbanda
(Post 10267873)
Nothing in Avherald which, absent reports by mainstream media, is where I'd expect to see it covered first.
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Have re-checked with my source and it was believed to have a been a Norwegian aircraft but cannot tell if it was a 787 or 737
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I hope he has a good lawyer.
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Originally Posted by student88
(Post 10267980)
The AvHerald aren't the authority, I have been aware of plenty of incidents which never appeared on their site. So just because it isn't there, it doesn't mean it didn't happen..
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A date a little more precise than "recently" would help in deciding whether or not it happened.
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I don’t quite understand how this could have happened. At Gatwick you are not cleared for take off until you have entered the runway. Also you are normally told to line up behind an arriving or departing aircraft. |
Originally Posted by suninmyeyes
(Post 10268287)
I don’t quite understand how this could have happened.
Originally Posted by interpreter
(Post 10267847)
only just cleared hardware at the eastern end
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This is a rumour network and I would hazard a guess that the rumour has about as much validity as the rumour about my national lottery win. |
Well if it was definitely a twin engine that’s me off the hook! |
08L TORA is about 600 metres less than 08R. A take-off from 08L using performance figures for a reduced thrust take-off from 08R would fit this scenario. Just guessing though. |
Many moons ago there was a Braniff (might be someone else) 747 took off and ATC lost sight of her. Think it lost an engine - sure someone will confirm with the correct info.
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08L
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....1b2d17cd3.jpeg Wander West on Juliet............ Cleared for take-off................ Line up on 08L and launch...... In Gatters? Don’t believe it. |
Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley
(Post 10268967)
Many moons ago there was a Braniff (might be someone else) 747 took off and ATC lost sight of her. Think it lost an engine - sure someone will confirm with the correct info.
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Originally Posted by nevillestyke
(Post 10269025)
Think I saw that one, sometime in the 80s, when I was working outdoors in Brighton. It did two circuits at about 800', dumping fuel at sea before returning to Gatwick. They said that it lost an engine, taking off in a crosswind, and clipped the trees.
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Mr Angry, We’re going back many years! Not sure of details but do as a pilot vividly remember a story of an aircraft, operator unknown, losing an engine (even 2, 747?) from LGW which disappeared from towers sight! Story went that the flight engineer was a major saving factor as was dumping fuel before the gear retraction was even complete..... If true makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up! 30W |
Originally Posted by Maxfli
(Post 10268982)
Wander West on Juliet............ Cleared for take-off................ Line up on 08L and launch...... In Gatters? Don’t believe it.
OK, I know PPRuNe is a rumour network, but let's not get too carried away. :O |
Mr Angry, I remember it as a Continental 747 which had an engine surge due to crosswind. Friends of mine in Concorde House thought it had hit Russ Hill, as did the controller who hit the crash alarm. Stories in the paper included a farm hand on Russ Hill ducking for cover whilst being doused in Jet A1 ;)
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Just wish they’d stop shutting the main runway as and when at night. Real pain in the..... |
Originally Posted by Right Way Up
(Post 10269381)
Mr Angry, I remember it as a Continental 747 which had an engine surge due to crosswind. Friends of mine in Concorde House thought it had hit Russ Hill, as did the controller who hit the crash alarm. Stories in the paper included a farm hand on Russ Hill ducking for cover whilst being doused in Jet A1 ;)
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The link to the B747 incident is already shown on post 18 by Liffy1M and the full report is on there. Continental 747 reg N605PE
Nothing showing yet about any incident involving a twin a few nights ago |
Originally Posted by surely not
(Post 10269624)
Nothing showing yet about any incident involving a twin a few nights ago
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Have heard that their have been some instances of aircraft starting their take of roll from the displaced landing threshold
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Meester, they have to fill in the potholes sometime, so why not off-peak?!
I used to enjoy setting up for 26R using the FMS, I believe that's one good way of developing SA. But then I'm old and pre-WinXP so that's how we completed the task in them thar days. |
Incident: Easyjet Europe A319 at London on Sep 30th 2018, error in takeoff calculation this could be the one. |
Originally Posted by Tom!
(Post 10271649)
Incident: Easyjet Europe A319 at London on Sep 30th 2018, error in takeoff calculation
this could be the one. No. The OP described an easterly takeoff from the northern runway. The Avherald report relates to a westerly takeoff from the southern runway. |
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