Republic 3531 Declares Emergency into MSP after FAM Displays Weapon
UA 3531, an ERJ-170 operated by Republic EWR-MSP, declared an emergency into MSP for security after a Federal Air Marshal apparently displayed his gun to a flight attendant.
The crew said they weren't notified that they had two FAM's onboard. One of the marshals showed his gun but not his badge to a flight attendant enroute and demanded to see the passenger manifest. The flight attendant thought this was suspicious and reported the incident to the flight deck. The FO is an FFDO and he said it was totally against protocol so they decided to declare an emergency. They landed on 30L and exited A8 to park on the deicing pad and sort things out. Apparently the FAM is still quite agitated and told the flight attendant that she should never have notified the pilots. Right now the plane is still on the deice pad with the cockpit door locked and cops and SWAT on the way with airstairs to sort things out. United ops sent an ACARS to the crew verifying that two FAM's were indeed onboard. |
Sounds like a real clusterfest. Think we're gonna need a replacement FAM. And we'll probably never hear about the resolution.
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Brickyard 3531 checks in with MSP tower in the last five minutes of the first liveatc.net clip below and the discussion continues after landing into the second clip.
After some checks and double checks, UA 3531 restarted engines and taxied to gate E5. http://archive-server.liveatc.net/km...2018-0400Z.mp3 http://archive-server.liveatc.net/km...2018-0430Z.mp3 On approach freq Brickyard reports 64 pax, 4 crew, 8300 pounds of fuel, cockpit secure: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/km...2018-0400Z.mp3 |
That FAM is a complete lunatic if it went down this way. |
possibly two FAMs positioning to longer flights, unknown to each other. One suspected the other and wanted to check names without causing a fuss in a compact seating. Obviously not sure how much was shown.
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo
(Post 10229437)
possibly two FAMs positioning to longer flights, unknown to each other. One suspected the other and wanted to check names without causing a fuss in a compact seating. Obviously not sure how much was shown.
-drl |
Gives a good hint on the quality of the FAM. Only a matter of time until they start shooting each other on a plane. |
Originally Posted by B2N2
(Post 10229424)
That FAM is a complete lunatic if it went down this way. |
Only in the gun-crazy USA would anyone be so stupid as to allow a person to carry weapons on an aircraft.
The entire FAM idea is utterly stupid and should be abolished ASAP. |
Originally Posted by lomapaseo
(Post 10229437)
possibly two FAMs positioning to longer flights, unknown to each other. One suspected the other and wanted to check names without causing a fuss in a compact seating. Obviously not sure how much was shown.
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Originally Posted by The Ancient Geek
(Post 10229593)
Only in the gun-crazy USA would anyone be so stupid as to allow a person to carry weapons on an aircraft.
The entire FAM idea is utterly stupid and should be abolished ASAP. you are indeed ancient, its no only in the USA |
Originally Posted by B2N2
(Post 10229424)
That FAM is a complete lunatic if it went down this way. |
Cop Joke: What do you call a failed police officer? Air Marshall! |
Originally Posted by The Ancient Geek
(Post 10229593)
Only in the gun-crazy USA would anyone be so stupid as to allow a person to carry weapons on an aircraft.
The entire FAM idea is utterly stupid and should be abolished ASAP. Gawd, you make this way too easy AG. |
Originally Posted by core_dump
(Post 10229506)
Most of them are. He'll get a promotion for this.
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Originally Posted by West Coast
(Post 10229758)
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Originally Posted by MichaelKPIT
(Post 10229642)
But would it not be better to show your ID? Rather than your gun?
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And by the way, who decided to call these characters Air Marshals? Surely Sky Marshal, airborne corrections officer or some such would do.
After an excellent landing etc... |
Originally Posted by Dont Hang Up
(Post 10229840)
Perhaps you should check the dates on your sources. Fifteen year old article and still no air marshals on UK flights.
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Originally Posted by Flash2001
(Post 10229870)
And by the way, who decided to call these characters Air Marshals? Surely Sky Marshal, airborne corrections officer or some such would do.
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