Over-the-limit Finnair’s A320 pilot arrested in cockpit
Wednesday's intoxication on Finnair’s A320 Captain delayed the flight to Rome for about two hours. ”Finnair staff reported on substance abuse, and police patrol was called to breathalysed the crew," the company said in a press release. Captain’s blood alcohol reading was 1.50mg of ethanol per millilitre of blood. (0,15% BAC) |
Blimey, all this back-stabbing, in-house reporting,and media exhaustion is driving me to take a quick slurp before reporting for duty myself !
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Originally Posted by slowjet
(Post 10226156)
Blimey, all this back-stabbing, in-house reporting,and media exhaustion is driving me to take a quick slurp before reporting for duty myself !
BTW - how much over the airline limit was, presumably, the Captain or FO? |
Originally Posted by Alpha777
(Post 10226139)
Wednesday's intoxication on Finnair’s A320 Captain delayed the flight to Rome for about two hours. ”Finnair staff reported on substance abuse, and police patrol was called to breathalysed the crew," the company said in a press release. Captain’s blood alcohol reading was 1.50mg of ethanol per millilitre of blood. (0,15% BAC) Pity the F/O didn't take him/her aside, long before they got anywhere near an aircraft and said something like: "Mate, no go!!, go sick!!" Tootle pip!! |
I remember a few years back with a local airline that it was the cabin crew who made a phone call to operations about suspected PIC intoxication and the aircraft was recalled to the gate.
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Originally Posted by LeadSled
(Post 10226174)
Blimey, if the above figures are correct, I am surprised he/she could even stagger onto the aeroplane??
Pity the F/O didn't take him/her aside, long before they got anywhere near an aircraft and said something like: "Mate, no go!!, go sick!!" Tootle pip!! |
That's 3x the Oz driving BAC limit!
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0.020-0.039%No loss of coordination, slight euphoria, and loss of shyness. Relaxation, but depressant effects are not apparent.
0.040-0.059%Feeling of well-being, relaxation, lower inhibitions, and sensation of warmth. Euphoria. Some minor impairment of judgment and memory, lowering of caution. 0.06-0.099%Slight impairment of balance, speech, vision, reaction time, and hearing. Euphoria. Reduced judgment and self-control. Impaired reasoning and memory. 0.100-0.129%Significant impairment of motor coordination and loss of good judgment. Speech may be slurred; balance, peripheral vision, reaction time, and hearing will be impaired. 0.130-0.159%Gross motor impairment and lack of physical control. Blurred vision and major loss of balance. Euphoria is reducing and beginning dysphoria (a state of feeling unwell) 0.160-0.199%Dysphoria predominates, nausea may appear. The drinker has the appearance of a sloppy drunk. 0.200-0.249%Needs assistance in walking; total mental confusion. Dysphoria with nausea and vomiting; possible blackout. 0.250-0.399%Alcohol poisoning. Loss of consciousness. 0.40% +Onset of coma, possible death due to respiratory arrest. |
It depends on the individual - people who seldom drink can be literally falling down drunk at 0.05%, while heavy drinkers can be somewhat functional at three times that amount (I read someplace long ago that some 'functional alcoholics' needed to keep their blood alcohol around 0.10% just to function :uhoh:).
However I'd hope a 'functional alcoholic' wouldn't be a professional pilot. 0.15% would be pretty drunk for most people. |
To Denti: I hope these were tongue-in-cheek remarks about an FO getting him/herself promoted through someone else's dismissal - not that I have any sympathy for the captain. I wonder, however, why the captain's state was not noticed at an earlier stage of pre-flight preparation.
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Thank the lord for AP/YD and TCAS..
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Originally Posted by LeadSled
(Post 10226174)
Blimey, if the above figures are correct, I am surprised he/she could even stagger onto the aeroplane??
Pity the F/O didn't take him/her aside, long before they got anywhere near an aircraft and said something like: "Mate, no go!!, go sick!!" Tootle pip!! Enabling alcoholics to continue to 'function' is a whole lot less a good idea up front of a passenger jet airliner. |
Originally Posted by Denti
(Post 10226335)
Why would any FO ever do that? Get him breathalyzed and a CPT position will open up. Especially interesting in a seniority driven airline with long waiting lists.
Because that is what a decent person would do for a colleague with a problem ---- and he/she clearly has a problem. Difficult as it may be for somebody of your expressed mindset, that is more likely than your scenario, based on my long experience, thank goodness. Tootle pip!! |
Originally Posted by LeadSled
(Post 10226174)
Blimey, if the above figures are correct, I am surprised he/she could even stagger onto the aeroplane??
Pity the F/O didn't take him/her aside, long before they got anywhere near an aircraft and said something like: "Mate, no go!!, go sick!!" Tootle pip!! Fun aside. Rat anybody out? As a PAX I'd never set foot on a plane if I knew the CPT was intoxicated. Would you?:confused: |
Originally Posted by LeadSled
(Post 10226174)
Blimey, if the above figures are correct, I am surprised he/she could even stagger onto the aeroplane??
Pity the F/O didn't take him/her aside, long before they got anywhere near an aircraft and said something like: "Mate, no go!!, go sick!!" Tootle pip!! |
Originally Posted by Denti
(Post 10226335)
Why would any FO ever do that? Get him breathalyzed and a CPT position will open up. Especially interesting in a seniority driven airline with long waiting lists.
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Originally Posted by Joe_K
(Post 10227092)
Daily Finland is writing "the pilot had not yet entered the aircraft" and YLE is writing "the airplane was not ready for departure and the captain was not yet sitting in the cockpit". That sounds like he was intercepted somewhere along the pre-flight process, possibly as early as when he reported for duty.
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Remember that US pilot at Manchester who got off as he was obtained at security and his defence was that he did not intend to carry out an aviation function and had only turned up in uniform to get access to the airside area where he could catch up with the Captain (he had left hotel late) to tell him that he was unfit to operate. That’s when security would allow you to board the aircraft and take your seat before popping up and breathalising you. |
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I suspect Finnair's ZERO TOLERANCE policy would mean they don't even want employees in uniform when over the legal limit.
It may (in company logic) reflect poorly on their brand (reputation risk management 101). One may escape criminal prosecution, but still end up without a job? |
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