Convair 340 (C-131D) ZS-BRV crash Pretoria, South Africa
ZS-BRV was due to be ferried from South Africa to the Aviodome in The Netherlands this month.It had been repainted in the old Martins Air Charter livery. News is coming in that it has crashed (on landing?) at Pretoria today. It broke into 3 parts and there are reports of 21 injuries.
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I found a picture of ZS-BRV taken a couple of days ago with this note:
Photo DateJul 08, 2018UploadedJul 10, 2018NotesRecently repainted in the classic Martinair scheme of the 1960s in anticipation of its imminent departure to its new home at the Aviodrome Lelystad in the Netherlands. Departure is scheduled for 12 July and it should be arriving in the Netherlands on 23 July. I am sad to think that this is probably my final time photographing this beautiful aeroplane in South Africa but I at least know it is going to a good home.https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9002145 Was the Martin's Air Charter lettering added (or revealed?) in the past couple of days? |
I believe the titles were added very recently.
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How does one modify the thread title? I think Pretoria, South Africa needs to be added. Mods, can you help?
Done. Senior Pilot |
Aviodome reports it as a test flight. Is it customary to carry 19 pax on a test flight? Of course they may have all been personnel so to speak.
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Minor typo: Convair 240 not 340. |
Casualties reported: https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...ports-20180710
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Video of the takeoff seems to show engine smoke:
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yes it seems it blew the left engine just before or at rotation on the video - such a shame - one of the crew died RIP very sad
gorgeous old aeroplane - now in bits and gone forever donated from Rovos Rail - sadly they had a very bad train crash a while ago with their vintage restored train which killed several crew it seems the a/c was trying to get back to the airport PDQ and didn't make it crashing into a field after clipping a warehouse |
rog747 you do not know that a pilot died. You may have read that a crew member died. Please be careful with your terminology, there are next of kin out here trying to find the answers.
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To be fair anxiao, several news sources are now quoting that one of the pilot's died.
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Which just shows how careful you have to be when re-quoting other sources. I shall not divulge my information here but even the EMS spokesperson did to know who had died.
To the press, anyone forward of the flight deck door is a pilot. If you know aviation, that is not a correct assumption. Just stop being ghoulish until the next of kin have been informed. |
Just stop being ghoulish until the next of kin have been informed. |
The SACAA can be relied upon to publish a full investigation is due course, their work is always to a very high standard.
How good would the single engine performance be under hot & high conditions ? The Convair would have a captain and a FO up front so "pilot" is ambiguous, would they also have a FE ? |
Originally Posted by The Ancient Geek
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The SACAA can be relied upon to publish a full investigation is due course, their work is always to a very high standard.
How good would the single engine performance be under hot & high conditions ? The Convair would have a captain and a FO up front so "pilot" is ambiguous, would they also have a FE ? |
The two pilots are personal friends of mine. Both are in a critical condition in J'burg hospitals.
They were taking the aircraft to the Aviodome tomorrow, expecting to complete the delivery within a week. The two SA engineers were accompanying them as they did for the delivery of the first aircraft to Australia. It was to be a quick "run around the block" with the passengers those who had worked on and with the aircraft during their return to service following Rovos' choice to gift them to museums. Let's keep those injured in our thoughts as many are quite ill and condolences to the deceased. The facts will some later. |
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...e578abeb08.jpg
From a South African aviation site. Taken shortly after takeoff. |
it was reported in several publications as having been converted to an CV-340. I have also seen it referred to as a CV-440 |
edited fatality
Originally Posted by rog747
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yes it seems it blew the left engine just before or at rotation on the video - such a shame - one of the crew died RIP very sad
gorgeous old aeroplane - now in bits and gone forever donated from Rovos Rail - sadly they had a very bad train crash a while ago with their vintage restored train which killed several crew it seems the a/c was trying to get back to the airport PDQ and didn't make it crashing into a field after clipping a warehouse seems the a/c went straight through the warehouse (not clipping it) :( such a sad occurrence that a vintage airliner honoured for a historic Dutch charter airline ends of like this - condolences to all |
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