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The real question is why ANYONE with a bit of experience stays. Given the market at the moment It’s really a big mistery to me |
Originally Posted by bringbackthe80s
(Post 10207762)
The real question is why ANYONE with a bit of experience stays. Given the market at the moment It’s really a big mistery to me |
Really? You think pilots tolerating being treated as lackeys and publicly berated by their CEO demonstrates a high level of self-respect? And those hanging on hoping for better times is precisely why Ryanair is able to continue. It’s the pilots who have the gumption to move on who created the cancellations last year which has allowed unionisation to get a toe hold. I hope things do get better for those remaining in Ryanair but there wouldn’t have been a hope without the more ambitious ones leaving. I spent every day in Ryanair making myself more employable so that I could get away from such a toxic, soul-destroying and generally joyless organisation. |
I don't agree. There is a time when enough is enough and an experiencd professional should not accept certain things. And frankly what surprises me is people are still hoping for a change. Incredible |
Originally Posted by bringbackthe80s
(Post 10207762)
The real question is why ANYONE with a bit of experience stays. Given the market at the moment It’s really a big mistery to me Know when to fold 'em Know when to walk away And know when to run You never count your money When you're sittin' at the table There'll be time enough for countin' When the dealin's done.... (Because working for Ryan is a real gamble.......) ST |
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A great quote from the Eurocockpit article regarding Ryanair - “This decision risks entering aviation history as a sad episode of human resources hara-kiri.” |
Originally Posted by JPJP
(Post 10211271)
A great quote from the Eurocockpit article regarding Ryanair - “This decision risks entering aviation history as a sad episode of human resources hara-kiri.” MOL and his minions have spent many, many years constantly getting their own way, total domination through a merry game of divide and rule. Consequently they have no clue whatsoever how to negotiate from the position of weakness they now find themselves in. Personally I think this dispute has already reached a critical mass - the workforce are clearly no longer afraid and further attempts to intimidate will simply strengthen resolve and unity |
I presume the “20% cuts” are just bluster and in fact are the normal cuts you would expect in winter. But if they really do scale back significantly due to strike action it just paved the wAy for the “rivals circling” to poach more FR pilots and expand their own operations. |
Hot off the press; Ryanair pilots based in Sweden have announced strike action on the 10th of August. Not in the news stream yet, announced by the union. |
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Ryanair pilots strike
Originally Posted by 172_driver
(Post 10211801)
Hot off the press; Ryanair pilots based in Sweden have announced strike action on the 10th of August. Not in the news stream yet, announced by the union. |
Originally Posted by bigdaviet
(Post 10211740)
I presume the “20% cuts” are just bluster and in fact are the normal cuts you would expect in winter. But if they really do scale back significantly due to strike action it just paved the wAy for the “rivals circling” to poach more FR pilots and expand their own operations. Let's also not forget that a very fundamental aspect of the Lo-Co model is maximizing utilization of capital assets i.e. keeping planes in the air as much as possible. A plane sat on the ground earns nothing in fares and ancillary revenue (in flight sales) but still has depreciation/finance costs, plus storage and scheduled maintenance costs. Grounding planes in winter can make financial sense, but only if the same assets are fully utilized during the busier summer months. So it doesn't matter if FR decide to relocate planes to Timbuktu - if they don't have enough crews to keep them in the air at the same or better level of utilization this will not only diminish revenues, but also increase the cost base relative to the remaining revenue. Ryanair's profitability is fragile, precisely because it is built on maximised efficiency; any loss of efficiency has a bigger impact compared to other airlines. New bases and routes take some time to build traffic and load factor etc (this by FR own admission) so there can be no business sense at all in relocating assets from a mature market with close to maximum utilization (Ireland) into the unknown (Poland). It can therefore only be seen as bluster or an act of desperation. |
Stemningsraport!
Or a Mood-report, could not find a good English word!
YpppeeeeeKaaYehhh Mother ,,,,,,,,er! Bruse Willis. Or maybe : " You fell lucky , Punk" RYR has made it to the Big League. They can not use the Court system as a threat any more. THEY actually have to behave according to old strict rules for Industrial Action. It looks like they need to google that concept. When at it , they could also google : supply and demand! Battle of Britain also comes to mind: Churchill: " This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is the end of the beginning" History is being made Girls and Boys. What are YOU going to tell you grand children!? Point of no return is WAY past! Rant over. Were did that Zigar go,,,,?? Regards Cpt B |
Originally Posted by BluSdUp
(Post 10212621)
Battle of Britain also comes to mind:
Churchill: " This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is the end of the beginning" Now back to the thread |
ryanairs uk pilots said to make move toward possible strike
The supreme irony today, is that Ryanair management seem to have maneuvered themselves into the worst possible negotiating position, purely through their own arrogance They were offered a company wide, single in house committee to negotiate with - the EERC - but they refused preferring to continue with their divide and rule So now they are forced to negotiate individualy with multiple unions across the various countries, while staff from various countries are quite obviously now working together, completely outside the control or visibility of Ryanair I guess they can always fall back on blaming Air Lingus :rolleyes: |
I presume the “20% cuts” are just bluster and in fact are the normal cuts you would expect in winter. But if they really do scale back significantly due to strike action it just paved the wAy for the “rivals circling” to poach more FR pilots and expand their own operations. |
Dan
I am wondering about that one! I recon the latest deft moves by Dublin has lost them some 10 to 15% of the present staff if not more by next spring. On top of the ones that was on the way out anyway. There is a limit to folks loyalty or stupidity as some like to call it here. The frustration on line is now at a level that are approaching critical proportions. So what is the Boss up to? The behavior is irrational at best and possible destructive with regards to summer 2019 staffing. UNLESS he intends to pull a big stunt around Brexit and crush the Union and ground a heap of aircraft in the process! I do not know, but if he plans to have all 500 aircraft flying next April he needs to change his ways. Regards Cpt B |
One more strike:
VC erhöht den Druck auf Ryanair - Austrian Aviation Net |
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