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Crew humiliation Mexican style
on arrival Mexico (Cancun), all foreign flight crew (and only crew)diverted to a cordoned off 'pen" to await a customs search. The actual search seemed a perfunctory "going through the motions" took 10-15 minutes, conducted in full view of passengers passing by, duty free bottles clinking, none of whom were searched. Interesting that resources can be found for this while Mexico is in the grip of a full-blown drugs war although I haven't experienced quite such targeted unpleasantness anywhere else in the world. Anyone know what it's all about? |
You must be new to CUN as they have been doing this for years in one way or another. Allegedly a response to UK border force routinely turning over Mexican crew, although I can't imagine what they would be looking for.
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Mexico City not much different.
On arrival, while pax go through the usual random style customs check, crew has their own channel where both checked and carry-on bags get x-rayed first en then also hand searched, all bags, every time, no exceptions. On departure after having gone throughI think 2 security checks there is another check in the gate where every bag is thoroughly hand searched while somebody is videotaping that with his camera almost in your face. Very annoying.. |
As others have said both MEX and CUN customs have been tighter than a ducks ..with crew for years now.....basically we are advised to not carry in anything that could be construed by the officials as being up for resale whilst in the country - so only carry one laptop/iPad, be wary of taking valuable sporting equipment in, etc..... |
If that's the case, wiggy, why focus on crew? And if macdo's post is correct, only UK crew. Is that really so? If it is it's even more outrageous. |
Originally Posted by ShotOne
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If that's the case, wiggy, why focus on crew? And if macdo's post is correct, only UK crew. Is that really so? If it is it's even more outrageous. All international crew arrivals are subjected to this. |
It's not just UK crew and it's their country, so their rules. It has been like this for years.
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"Their rules.." That's hardly an explanation. Indeed it begs the question why a country suffering over 29,000 drug-related murders a year can find law-enforcement resources for a focused screw-around of one professional group. |
Originally Posted by ShotOne
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"Their rules.." That's hardly an explanation. Indeed it begs the question why a country suffering over 29,000 drug-related murders a year can find law-enforcement resources for a focused screw-around of one professional group. con·flate kənˈflāt/ verbverb: conflate; 3rd person present: conflates; past tense: conflated; past participle: conflated; gerund or present participle: conflating
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Originally Posted by ShotOne
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"Their rules.." That's hardly an explanation. Indeed it begs the question why a country suffering over 29,000 drug-related murders a year can find law-enforcement resources for a focused screw-around of one professional group. |
They were doing that when I started going there circa 1995. Only thing that has changed since then is the standard of HOTAC which seems to change regularly. You can probably guess which way the standard has gone. |
"Their rules.." That's hardly an explanation. Indeed it begs the question why a country suffering over 29,000 drug-related murders a year can find law-enforcement resources for a focused screw-around of one professional group. I too have been through this procedure in Cancun. It is frustrating but neither I nor my crew found it humiliating, but then we didn't consider ourselves as anything special. |
As a US based crew member regularly going through the 'over the top' security screening, that crews are constantly subject to at Heathrow, I find it quite ironic hearing a UK crew member complaining about anybody else's procedures. |
Last time through Cancun they advised me that I could not bring in my snorkel mask and fins. The explanation given was that as I was entering as working aircrew,I could only bring in items pertinent to my reason for being there. It occurred to me that a doctors note was called for,telling me that I should swim every day for my frozen shoulder!!!! Further digging unveiled that I could indeed bring my fins and mask along however,a charge of 6% tax would be levied. Therefore,any idea on the current value of a Decatlon children's mask and fins set?!!!!!!! What a load of............ Also noted...they are only following orders,and a smile and cheerful attitude usually works wonders for a swift transit! |
Originally Posted by ShotOne
(Post 10174407)
"Their rules.." That's hardly an explanation. Indeed it begs the question why a country suffering over 29,000 drug-related murders a year can find law-enforcement resources for a focused screw-around of one professional group. |
Originally Posted by M.Mouse
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Might that be in retaliation for the procedures and implementation thereof the USA adopted for incoming visitors and crew members following the tragedy of 9/11?
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"Since you're not Mexican.." if you're insisting issues affecting us can only be discussed by nationals of the country where it's happening, that's demonstrably NOT a pprune convention, witness about a zillion posts regarding various policies of President Trump. No, beardy I don't "consider myself special" but I'd still like to know the reason for a unique and time-consuming procedure being applied to crew but nobody else in a country where enforcement resources are stretched way past breaking-point. |
The reason is that the customs officials are complying with the law of the country. You have no influence to change that law, one which complies with international conventions. You may not like it, I don't, but if you want to operate to and from there you will lower your blood pressure by just accepting that that's the way they do it .
IATA Mexico |
Council Van
True.
But that does not give the UK the right to be anal about it! And hold the rest of the world hostage to the " Liquid Ban" everyone was ready to drop ca 5 years ago. Does it? . Oh , and good luck with speaking the truth in this matter. It is not popular. |
Originally Posted by BluSdUp
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True.
But that does not give the UK the right to be anal about it! And hold the rest of the world hostage to the " Liquid Ban" everyone was ready to drop ca 5 years ago. Does it? . Oh , and good luck with speaking the truth in this matter. It is not popular. |
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