Heavy casualties reported in Algerian IL78 crash
According to initial report (from the Sun mind you ) as many as 200.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/602311...h-toll-latest/ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...081014559.html Just googling it seems the 78 is mainly a tanker, and that it is likely a 76 (which is what Algerian military operate ) but, of no consequence in this tragedy. |
Originally Posted by captplaystation
(Post 10114254)
According to initial report (from the Sun mind you ) as many as 200.
Just googling it seems the 78 is mainly a tanker, and that it is likely a 76 (which is what Algerian military operate ) but, of no consequence in this tragedy. |
Video Grab: Scene outside Boufarik airport after Algerian military plane crash
Shows tail of aircraft with left horizontal stabilizer in the vertical position. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dafc_V8XcAI4K28.jpg Video can be seen on this page BREAKING Algerian Military plane with about 100 people onboard crashed near Boufarik airbase | AIRLIVE.net |
Algerian Ennahar tv reporting 300 onboard with 247 confirmed dead so far.
Edit to add just gone up to 257 |
Il-76 payload = 17,500Kg. 300 pax + bags = 30,000kgs.
Plane crashed just after take-off. Oops. |
Originally Posted by rcsa
(Post 10114436)
Il-76 payload = 17,500Kg. 300 pax + bags = 30,000kgs.
Plane crashed just after take-off. Oops. If so it's not the first time this has happened. |
IL76MD, a variant the Algerians have, can lift approx 40T of payload.
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Originally Posted by rcsa
(Post 10114436)
Il-76 payload = 17,500Kg. 300 pax + bags = 30,000kgs.
Plane crashed just after take-off. Oops. |
At least 257 on board... That sounds like a fairly significant overload!
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Al Watan (the most reliable Algerian news source) also reports 257 casualties, 10 crew the rest military personnel and their families.
Weight wise not an issue (some Il-76 variants can take as much as 60 tons payload) but how on earth did they manage to cram that many into that space (perhaps some fold-down double-decker config, like it was in the C-124 ?) |
Originally Posted by andrasz
(Post 10114516)
Weight wise not an issue (some Il-76 variants can take as much as 60 tons payload) but how on earth did they manage to cram that many into that space
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According to the BBC, the 257 aboard consisted of not only troops but also their families, so conceivably there may be many small children among them. There are also 10 crew believed killed, presumably included in the number being cited. A massive tragedy for the Algerians.
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https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/11/94/64/62/bcc42b10.jpg
Hold size 728x135” = 682 sq ft For 250 passengers each would have 2.73 sq ft or a 1.6x1.6 ft space on the floor. Tight ! |
There is a double-decker config for IL76 making it aprox 250 troops capacity but I am not sure how often/widely it used these days...
http://milaremina.ru/wp-content/uplo...aya-paluba.jpg |
Possible Engine failure with MTOW exceeded... nightmare scenario.
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Originally Posted by flash8
(Post 10114550)
Possible Engine failure with MTOW exceeded... nightmare scenario.
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Originally Posted by CargoOne
(Post 10114546)
There is a double-decker config for IL76
Originally Posted by CargoOne
(Post 10114553)
You cant exceed MTOW on IL76 with just 250 pax and fuelled for Algerian domestic flight
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Originally Posted by rcsa
(Post 10114436)
Il-76 payload = 17,500Kg. 300 pax + bags = 30,000kgs.
Plane crashed just after take-off. Oops. |
Accident location
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.5305.../data=!3m1!1e3
Clearly identifiable from videos/photos posted on news sites and social media, in fields between A1 highway and the end of RWY 22. The airport perimeter guard towers appear clearly in some photos. |
(bird strike, incorrect flaps/slats, thrust, W/B just to name a few) Condolences to all involved. |
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