ATR wing damage in flight
Not sure what happened here as the description isn’t very helpful.
Either way, it doesn’t look good. https://storage.googleapis.com/state...9.10.53-am.png Center WingBox of Hop! Air France ATR-42, damaged in mid-air. ? News In Flight |
Originally Posted by reverserunlocked
(Post 10098388)
Not sure what happened here as the description isn’t very helpful.
I'd be interested to see a photo showing the left MLG. The BEA are investiigating the incident. |
Folks,
Seems that ATSs are a bit fragile, some will remember the structural failure at the top of the fin in a Virgin Australia aircraft. As it apparently did not happen on landing, ????, doesn't seem likely it was a bird strike. Is it just my eyes, or does it look like part of that fairing failed in tension. Tootle pip!! |
Other reports say MLG door separated and hit the composite fairing. Looks dramatic but no structural damage from what I can see. Must have caused quite some noise in the cabin though...
Seems that ATSs are a bit fragile... Many moons ago I did an evaluation of various makes/models and I was surprised to learn in the process that the ATR72 has the lowest structural weight per seat of ANY post-war airliner, which is a key selling point in high airport/ATC fee regions (which are MTOW driven). |
Why the panic?
That's neither wing, fuselage nor structural damage, but surely a non-structural fairing which - unusually - has been impacted by something. Hardly cause for alarm for the aircraft type as such. |
["http://https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=208217"]
The Flight Radar trace seems to show a sudden speed excursion to 340 Knots, coincident with a sudden altitude loss from 10K' to 7.5K'. |
Originally Posted by EDMJ
(Post 10098685)
Why the panic?
That's neither wing, fuselage nor structural damage, but surely a non-structural fairing which - unusually - has been impacted by something. Hardly cause for alarm for the aircraft type as such. Aircraft have been lost under similar circumstances: Report on the accident to BAe HS 748, G-ASPL at Nailstone, Leicestershire on 26 June 1981 |
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That indication was or should have been the intercom from the Cabin Crew.
"Did you hear that Captain" Other than that NO. |
As farvas I remember the main gear Doors a fixed to the landing gear and does not have a separate actuator. It is secured to the airframe with pianohinges. If one piano hinge fails the door is free to fall outward and I’m sure it will be ripped completely of if the happens.
As others have mentioned it damaged some non structural composite panels. |
Originally Posted by twochai
(Post 10098705)
["http://https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=208217"]
The Flight Radar trace seems to show a sudden speed excursion to 340 Knots, coincident with a sudden altitude loss from 10K' to 7.5K'. Wonder what the full story is. |
"Air France"...
So what is reflecting the flash? |
Originally Posted by JammedStab
(Post 10099680)
Hmm 340 knots. One might put the gear down at such a speed to slow down and then....lose a gear door.
Wonder what the full story is. |
Originally Posted by twochai
(Post 10098705)
["http://https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=208217"]
The Flight Radar trace seems to show a sudden speed excursion to 340 Knots, coincident with a sudden altitude loss from 10K' to 7.5K'.
Originally Posted by JammedStab
(Post 10099680)
Hmm 340 knots. One might put the gear down at such a speed to slow down and then....lose a gear door.
Wonder what the full story is.
Originally Posted by ZFT
(Post 10099796)
340 knts in an ATR. Right.
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Originally Posted by AirUK
(Post 10099823)
VMO in an ATR at 10,000' is 250 KIAS. VLO is 170 KIAS. Either the 340 KIAS is erroneous
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 10099848)
The 340 kts is groundspeed, not IAS.
I was about to point out the same thing... It's obviously been clouted by something but despite rumours of an MLG door departing the airframe there's no other pictures/anything more official of any airframe parts missing other than the damage shown above. My first thought was a part of a prop blade had detatched, given the look and position of the damage. |
‘Ding!’ ‘MLG DOOOR FELL OFF’
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I can't imagine a gear door going that far up before it went aft, there's more to the story....
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http://airlinergallery.nl/atr42airfrance.jpg
Can a MLG door get up there and cause that sort of damage ? |
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