Ladies & Gents just so you are aware this morning's "Times" report on the crash seems to be a complete cut 'n paste job off this forum
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Originally Posted by arnicopanday
(Post 10082459)
Long time lurker on this forum. Finally signed up....
... Am trying to upload a sketch of what I saw but as a new poster here I don't seem to be able to post a link yet. |
Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry
(Post 10082985)
Ladies & Gents just so you are aware this morning's "Times" report on the crash seems to be a complete cut 'n paste job off this forum
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Thanks for the terrific account Arnicopanday.
I now wonder if what seemed like confusion on part of the Cap between 02 and 20, was in fact him flying from one end of the lot to the other, picking runways as he went. Incredible if so. |
some video has turned up. from Aviation Safety Net - "Video shows US-Bangla Airlines flight #BS211 during go around after attempting to land on runway 02 at Kathmandu Airport. The accident happened a few minutes later: " |
From 1at:
BS211 reported to be " .. on final RWY 02 .." TOWER consequently responded ".. continue approach ..". TOWER: "BS211 ... RWY 02 cleared to land" BS211 confirmed ".. cleared to land.." assuming RWY 02 Lots of speculation, but this seems very clear and simple. The runway is long enough for a -8 to land, takeoff and land again. We hear the captain has survived so we wait to hear why they didn't KISS. |
Originally Posted by cbradio
(Post 10083477)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBgcC3OlqfQ
some video has turned up. from Aviation Safety Net - "Video shows US-Bangla Airlines flight #BS211 during go around after attempting to land on runway 02 at Kathmandu Airport. The accident happened a few minutes later: " Sorry, more than 20 years I've been there:bored: |
Arnicopanday - welcome to the forum and thank you for your (dramatic) first post. If you find a way to post the sketch that would be brilliant.
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crazy location!
The caption in the video above says it was taken in Gagalphedi, approx 7 km NE of the Runway 20 threshold at the base of high mountains. Amazing that they got that low so far from the runway.
It looks like they flew north past the airport, right up to the northern end of the Kathmandu Valley and turned around at the last moment before impacting with terrain there, then missed 20 while heading back south (shortly after this video clip). |
Originally Posted by RAT 5
(Post 10083502)
We hear the captain has survived so we wait to hear why they didn't KISS.
US-Bangla plane crash: Pilot Abid, 3 other cabin crew confirmed dead |
That account from arnicopanday plus the new video puts the plane's path quiet clear now . The place of video is Gagalphedi , it is due N-NE of the airport and 7-8 kms far. search it on google or bing , my new account ! no link
when I saw the plane fly very low across the airport buildings, turning from a northwesterly heading to a southwesterly heading. From my viewpoint It flew BEHIND the airport control tower, somewhere around the domestic terminal. (A taxi driver on the domestic parking lot reported that its wing almost touched the roof of the Nepal Airlines Hangar). I request him do this on maps , post it here Another wild guess, The domesticTerminal parking bay ? , up North angled to 20, looks alot like a Runway . something like Runway 15(!), if it were to exist? \\ . Look at the maps , It is Narrow , elongated , a path extends straight to a hangar across the main runway . Did they made an approach towards this ? unknowingly? |
One item that I haven't seen mentioned here
https://scroll.in/latest/871866/nepa...ation-underway Defending the pilots, the airlines [US-Bangla Airlines chief executive Imran Asif] said Captain Abid Sultan, who survived the crash, had more than 5,000 hours of flying experience and was specially trained to land at the airport. Sultan is a former Bangladesh Air Force pilot and was also a flying instructor with the airline, AP reported. |
Originally Posted by cbradio
(Post 10083477)
"Video shows US-Bangla Airlines flight #BS211 during go around after attempting to land on runway 02 at Kathmandu Airport. The accident happened a few minutes later: "
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 10083460)
Any chance you could post a link or quote a section of the article?
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Originally Posted by RAT 5
(Post 10083502)
From 1at:
BS211 reported to be " .. on final RWY 02 .." TOWER consequently responded ".. continue approach ..". TOWER: "BS211 ... RWY 02 cleared to land" BS211 confirmed ".. cleared to land.." assuming RWY 02 Lots of speculation, but this seems very clear and simple. The runway is long enough for a -8 to land, takeoff and land again. We hear the captain has survived so we wait to hear why they didn't KISS. I suspect this one will go into the text books. After a few minutes not only were they lost spatially but it sounds as if they'd lost touch with what they wanted to do.... horrible |
Re CRM gradient is there cultural component as well, I.e. Go Around w female FO may cause losing face?
I still wonder if Cap attempted to take over both Comms and PF duty. |
At this point, does anyone other than the bereft, insurers and lawyers sincerely care about this crash? Abbott and Costello crash a transport category aircraft in VMC with Curly and Moe in the tower. (Curly and Moe were two members of the comedy trio known as the "Three Stooges". Abbott & Costello were a comedy duo).
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the sketch
There's the sketch of what I think I saw (~last 10 minutes of flight)
It is on imgur: /a/Parhr |
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I flew there yesterday. Spoke to our AME who witnessed the final moments of the flight. The flight path he described is slightly to the north of the one sketched by arnicopanday. He was at stand 1 looking towards the tower when the aircraft appeared in a left bank. It narrowly avoided the control tower and a lamp post at the edge of the apron. He claims he saw the aircraft pitch up to avoid the tail of the Thai 777 before hitting the ground in a left bank just beyond taxiway C. He was not sure if it touched down on the runway or the ground just after the runway. As per him it was the lady FO’s first flight to KTM.
^^ The above is a second hand information so I can’t vouch for the accuracy but it seems to correlate with what the other eyewitnesses saw. |
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