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scr1 12th Mar 2018 09:06

Plane crash in Nepal
 
'Plane crash' at Nepal's Kathmandu airport - BBC News

A plane has crashed at Kathmandu's international airport, local media report.

A plane from a Bangladeshi airline crashed on the east side of Tribhuvan International Airport's runway, the Kathmandu Post reported.

An airport spokesperson told the paper that casualties were feared.

Photos and video posted on social media showed smoke rising from an airport runway.

Cloudee 12th Mar 2018 09:08

'Plane crash' at Nepal's Kathmandu airport
 
'Plane crash' at Nepal's Kathmandu airport - BBC News
Reports of Bangladeshi aircraft crash.

c_coder 12th Mar 2018 09:22

This article has a picture of smoke in the distance:

US-Bangla airlines aircraft crashes at TIA - National - The Kathmandu Post

It gives the ACID as S2-AGU

It also says the aircraft crashed into a football ground near the airport.

andrasz 12th Mar 2018 09:24

DH-8 Q400 S2-AGU

1a sound asleep 12th Mar 2018 09:33

Terrible fire photos on here https://www.facebook.com/AIRLINESECRETS/

Heathrow Harry 12th Mar 2018 09:34

A plane has crashed at Kathmandu's international airport, local media say.

The plane from US-Bangla, a Bangladeshi airline, went off the runway while landing and crashed on the east side of Tribhuvan International Airport's runway, the Kathmandu Post reported. An airport spokesperson told the paper that casualties were feared.

The plane can reportedly carry 78 passengers and firefighters were at the scene trying to extinguish a fire, local news site My Republica reported.
Photos and video posted on social media showed smoke rising from an airport runway.

The plane was identified in local media as S2-AGU, a Bombardier Dash 8 Q400, but this has not been officially confirmed.
The flight landed at TIA airport, also known as Kathmandu International Airport, at 14:20 local time (08:35 GMT), according to flight tracking website FlightRadar24.

Heathrow Harry 12th Mar 2018 09:35

According to airport spokesperson Prem Nath Thakur, the aircraft careened off the runway during landing and crashed onto a football ground near TIA. The aircraft took off from Dhaka and landed at TIA at 2:20 pm.
US-Bangla Airlines commenced operations with domestic flights on 17 July 2014. It is a subsidiary of US-Bangla Group, a United States-Bangladesh joint venture company
Serial number 4041
Type DHC-8 402
Registration S2-AGU
Plane age 16.8 years

Heathrow Harry 12th Mar 2018 09:49

67 pax on board

About 67 passengers were thought to be on board, officials told the BBC. The number of casualties is unconfirmed.
Seventeen people on board have been rescued so far, the authorities say.

Joe_K 12th Mar 2018 11:31


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 10080789)
67 pax on board

About 67 passengers were thought to be on board, officials told the BBC. The number of casualties is unconfirmed.
Seventeen people on board have been rescued so far, the authorities say.

The Grauniad have it as "Nepali police said at least 38 were killed and 23 injured, with another 10 people still unaccounted for."

With video of the aftermath. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ashes-in-nepal

readywhenreaching 12th Mar 2018 11:46

An unbelievable ATC transcript is just online at Jacdec
2018-03-18 US Bangla DHC-8-400 crashed on landing Kathmandu » JACDEC

Nemrytter 12th Mar 2018 12:21

The transcript is based on LiveATC recordings, I just had a listen and the transcript appears correct. Astounding.

ironbutt57 12th Mar 2018 12:46

easy enough to operate in and out of there as long as procedures are followed and ATC communications are made clearly and in standard phraseology, never had an issue

Mike Flynn 12th Mar 2018 13:00

ATC Radio Transcript Kathmandu-Tower

(Note: this transcript is inofficial and can contain inadequate data)

BS211(female voice): „Good day, BanglaStar211 final runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower. Wind 220 degrees eight knots, tailwind component seven knots, continue approach.“
BS211(female voice): „Continue approach BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, wind 220 degrees seven knots, talwind component six knots, you’re cleared to land.“
BS211(female voice): „Cleared to land, BanglaStar 211.“
..
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, tower?“
BS211(female voice): „Go ahead, sir.“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead, mam‘.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, you were given a landing clearance to runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, mam.“
KTH-Tower: „You are going towards runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „..(garbled transmission)..to runway 02.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „…211, runway 20, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „..cleared to land..(unintelligible).“
..
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, Kathmandu Tower“
BS211(male voice): „Go ahead“
KTH-Tower (different voice): „BanglaStar211, request your intentions.“
BS211(male voice): „..(unintelligible)..“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ BanglaStar211, that would be VFR.“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ 211 join a ri…ehm..right downwind to runway 20.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied.“
KTH-Tower (different voice): “ …right downwind runway 02..“
..
Tower cleares another aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar 211, traffic at final eh..runway 02 at two miles, report sighting.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied, Sir. We’ll be at (..) runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Confirm you’re tracking towards runway 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative.“
KTH-Tower: „Right..left, right downwind runway 02, I say again Bangla 212 traffic is on final runway 02 landing on runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „Copied Sir“
..
Tower confirmed landing clearance for the other aircraft (Buddha282) to land on runway 02.
..
KTH-Tower: „211 I say it again, do not proceed towards runway 20. Cleared to hold at your current position.“
BS211(male voice): „Okay, we’re making an orbit to the right, copied ?“
BS211(male voice): „Tower, 211, making a right holding, right holding for runway 02.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay that’s good but do not land. Traffic is on short final runway 02.“
BS211(male voice): „We have that, Sir copied. (unintelligible) we’re cleared to land“
..
KTH-Tower: „..BanglaStar211, runway..eh..cleared to land. Runway is vacated, either runway 02 or 20 ?“
BS211(male voice): „Yes Siur, we like to land on 20.“
KTH-Tower: „Okay runway 20, cleared to land. Wind is 270 degrees, six knots.“
BS211(male voice): „260 copied, cleared to land.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, confirm you have the runway in sight?“
BS211(male voice): „Negative, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, turn right and ah..you have the runway, confirm you have the runway not in sight, yet ?“
BS211(male voice): „Affirmative, we have (..) runway in sight. Requesting clear to land, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: „And BanglaStar211, cleared to land.“
BS211(male voice): „Cleared to land runway 02, BanglaStar212.“
KTH-Tower: „Roger, ruway 02, cleared to land, BanglaStar211.“
..
BS211(male voice): „..sir, are we cleared to land ?“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, I say again..turn… (yelling in background).“
..
(end of BS211 transmissions)


http://www.jacdec.de/WP/wp-content/u...mandu_MAP1.jpg

Heathrow Harry 12th Mar 2018 13:23

I hope that isn't correct...............

ATC Watcher 12th Mar 2018 13:38

I would like to hear the tape instead on relying on the transcript as there are a lot of (...) and (unintelligible) , anyone can post the link ?
From what I know of KTM ( been there quite a few times) , turboprop OPS are all VFR , not sure about international ones however. But a remark by the ATC supervisor ( or coach) seems to indicate they were VFR :

KTH-Tower (different voice): “ BanglaStar211, that would be VFR.“
The METAR indicate only CBs and few, but haze/mist is very common heavily reducing visibility , especially facing sun.

I cleaned up the last part which is important ; I doubt they were all the time VMC , and making a visual approach in partial IMC appears to be problem , as to to disorientation a to which runway they were going to use . or saw in the end.


KTH-Tower: Runway is vacated, either runway 02 or 20 ?“
BS211 : we like to land on 20.
KTH-Tower: „Okay runway 20, cleared to land.
BS211: „260 copied, cleared to land.“
KTH-Tower: „BanglaStar211, confirm you have the runway in sight?“
BS211: „Negative, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: confirm you have the runway not in sight, yet ?“
BS211: „Affirmative, we have (..) runway in sight. Requesting clear to land, Sir.“
KTH-Tower: BanglaStar211, cleared to land.“
BS211 „Cleared to land runway 02, BanglaStar212.“
KTH-Tower: „Roger, ruway 02, cleared to land, BanglaStar211.“
..
BS211(male voice): „..sir, are we cleared to land ?“
For me , it looks like there might have been another technical or physical issue (Hypoxia?) , not reported to ATC, that could explain such erratic behavior, that you could see from a solo fight in a C152 that lost VMC than from an ATPL of an International airline.

jurassicjockey 12th Mar 2018 13:40

That transcript is one of the most disturbing things that I've read in a long time. I would expect a higher level of performance from a student before going solo

ironbutt57 12th Mar 2018 13:47

[QUOTE=Heathrow Harry;10081041]I hope that isn't correct...............[/QUOTE

If that is correct it would appear to be a stall then crash from right about the place they would have been maneuvering when told to enter right downwind for 02, then “hold” then deciding to go to 02, then back to 20

Nemrytter 12th Mar 2018 13:50


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher (Post 10081067)
I would like to hear the tape instead on relying on the transcript as there are a lot of (...) and (unintelligible) , anyone can post the link ?

As I already mentioned, it's on LiveATC.
You can find it here: https://www.liveatc.net/archive.php
Kathmandu is VNKT and the relevant times are the 0800-0830 and 0830-0900 clips.

ironbutt57 12th Mar 2018 13:54

[quote=ironbutt57;10081078]

Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 10081041)
I hope that isn't correct...............[/QUOTE

If that is correct it would appear to be a stall then crash from right about the place they would have been maneuvering when told to enter right downwind for 02, then “hold” then deciding to go to 02, then back to 20


and thats from the transcript AND live ATC...they seem to match

ATC Watcher 12th Mar 2018 14:21

Thanks Nemrytter. I will check .
In the meantime the death toll is rising to 49 and the blame game has started .
Kathmandu airport crash: At least 40 dead as US-Bangla plane veers off runway - BBC News


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