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jiggi 28th Feb 2018 16:30

Smartlynx A320 runway excursion EETN 28.2.2018
 
Training flight MYX9001 reg ES-SAN, no casualties. Smartlynx has confirmed that flight had technical problems during flight before landing.

Video of the landing run:


A0283 28th Feb 2018 17:04

just in front of the cameraman and in line with his car... there is a metallic sound and at that point the plane appears to leave the runway. Weird to see a tyre or wheel coming off, following the plane, and the doing a few circles below the wing behind it. ARFF pretty quick.

andrasz 28th Feb 2018 19:03

The video was taken from here (note that Street View is very outdated):
https://www.google.ee/maps/@59.41579...2!8i6656?hl=en

From FR24 it appears that after a number of left and right circuits and touch-and-go-s some problem developed, apparently they did a tower fly-by before data discontinues. From the video it can be seen that at least one nosewheel separates and briefly sparks from the nosegear appear before the aircraft comes to a full stop about 850m from RWY 26 threshold, well before taxiway F (fire trucks approach of F). Main gear doors are hanging indicating some hydraulic issue.

The position of the cameraman suggests he was aware of the issue and was waiting to film the landing. ARFF also appear to have been alerted and in waiting. Airport re-opened about four hours after the incident.


Edit: just released photos show the aircraft to be in the snow off the runway, with L1 slide deployed:


http://f8.pmo.ee/EZI4UvlSc0iZzTVvgi0...303t1h7cce.jpg

J.O. 28th Feb 2018 20:12

Main gear doors open can also be an indication of a manual landing gear extension.

jiggi 1st Mar 2018 06:59

Accident: Smartlynx A320 at Tallinn on Feb 28th 2018, runway excursion after bad touch and go

Nightstop 1st Mar 2018 08:47

Severe hard landing due to Ground Spoiler extension after a bounce has been mitigated by a new SEC standard, it would be interesting to know if this new logic was fitted to this airframe. In any case, the new SEC logic won’t prevent a severe hard landing after a bounce caused by the Thrust Levers still being in the CLB detent on touchdown, in which case immediate application of TOGA and go around is required.

Intrance 1st Mar 2018 10:43

Someone forgot to tell the new recruits that itís the landing gear that needs to touch, not the fuselage.

But in all seriousness, this must have made for some interesting base training and a pretty awful landing to cause the damage seen in the pictures.

andrasz 1st Mar 2018 11:37

My understanding is that the fuselage/engine damage was caused by hitting the approach lights while making an early touch-down before the threshold. It is not confirmd whether this happened duing the prior touch-and-go pr the final landing, but the cloud of snow on touchdown in the video suggests the latter. Not hard to envision with the adrenaline still running after the bounce, likely made worse by all the bells, whistles and xmas tree lights and not knowing the extent of structural damage.

Kakaru 1st Mar 2018 12:17

Did they make 180 turn after their last touch and go and made an emergency landing in the opposite direction? If yes, then something quite serious must have happened. AFAIK, the runaway in use was 08 and they landed on 26.

CargoOne 1st Mar 2018 12:28

Estonian CAA flight inspector was onboard - watch this space...

DaveReidUK 1st Mar 2018 12:31


Originally Posted by Kakaru (Post 10069235)
Did they make 180 turn after their last touch and go and made emergency landing in the opposite direction? If yes, then something quite serious must have happened. AFAIK, the runaway in use was 08 and they landed on 26.

From the link in post #5 (earlier today):

"Estonia's Ohutusjuurdluse Keskus (OJK, Estonia's accident investigation board) reported the aircraft had departed at 12:03L for a training flight to practise approaches and landings with 7 people on board, at 17:04L the aircraft approached runway 08 for another touch and go, the aircraft could not climb out and collided with the runway, subsequently managed to become airborne again, performed a left turn and landed on runway 26 veering off the runway."

EDLB 1st Mar 2018 13:30

Strange. If nothing is on fire and the donkeys work, I would always fly a normal pattern and not do a 180 and return downwind on final.

Prada 1st Mar 2018 13:52

RAM Air turbine
 
It looks like RAM Air turbine is deployed for some reason.

https://tallinn.postimees.ee/4425029...&image=7648999

gearlever 1st Mar 2018 13:58

Hard touch down...?

andrasz 1st Mar 2018 14:00

Piecing together the puzzle from various (unconfirmed) reports and visual clues it appears the bounce was hard enough to dislodge the RAT and the main gear doors. The right main gear door later fell away during the go-around, while the left one probably fractured during the subsequent early touch-down.

EDML 1st Mar 2018 15:50


Originally Posted by EDLB (Post 10069311)
Strange. If nothing is on fire and the donkeys work, I would always fly a normal pattern and not do a 180 and return downwind on final.



Looks like they really wanted to land ASAP - on 26 they had around 12kt tailwind ...

EDLB 1st Mar 2018 17:19

That stuff get bent on pattern training is nothing new, not the first, in no way the last one. As long as everybody can walk away, it is a successful landing. You learn enormous by that.
The biggest hit takes the ego of the PF. Hope that he keeps flying. As usual the most is to learn for the decision making process. Much worse if your luck runs out before you have mastered that.

tubby linton 1st Mar 2018 18:56

The gear doors are mechanically uplocked and I would be very surprised if a hard landing could defeat the locks. I wonder if two of hydraulic systems were damaged on a previous circuit. Gear doors open is normal with loss of Green and did they deploy the RAT to redover the Yellow and through the PTU the Green? Flight on Blue only is demanding and offers very limited flight controls. The Avherald also shows damage to an engine nacelle. The aircraft doesn’t appear to have landed with any flaps, pointing to a double hydraulic failure.
The report on this one is going to be very interesting.

tubby linton 1st Mar 2018 19:04

The embedded light as seen in the Avherald appears to be pointing in the direction of flight so they hit it on climb out not approach.

Sidestick_n_Rudder 1st Mar 2018 19:14


Originally Posted by EDML (Post 10069468)
Looks like they really wanted to land ASAP - on 26 they had around 12kt tailwind ...

Several avherald comments claim loss of both engines, subsequent to short/hard landing. There are also pictures showing some damage to the engines.

That would explain the RAT extension and the quick 180 turn...

Edit, the fan on the photo looks intact, however there seems to be damage to the inlet and probably to the underside of the engine.


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