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Kulverstukas 31st Jan 2018 08:12

Near miss at Tel Aviv?
 
The FedEx cargo plane Boing-757, making a flight on the route Athens-Tel Aviv, was forced to make a sharp maneuver to avoid a collision with the UN aircraft from Tel Aviv airport Sde-Dov to Egyptian Sharm al-Sheikh. Both aircraft, moving at a speed of about 700 km / h, were only a few tens of meters apart, and only a good reaction from the pilot of the Boeing allowed to avoid a catastrophe.

On the fact of the incident, an investigation was launched, led by a senior investigator of the Ministry of Transport. According to preliminary data, the pilot of the UN aircraft did not follow the instructions of the dispatcher.

https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServe...00640360no.jpg

The incident occurred around 6:30 am at an altitude of 3000 feet less than two kilometers from the coast of Tel Aviv. According to the control tower of Ben-Gurion International Airport, the planes moved to meet each other at a speed of 700 km / h. The pilot of the cargo Boeing noticed the passenger Beechcraft King Air ahead of him and managed to change the direction and height, thus avoiding collisions.

As it became known to Ynet, the FedEx cargo plane received a permission from the controller to land and followed the instructions exactly. The UN aircraft, on the contrary, violated the dispatcher's instructions received during take-off, and withdrew from his course. According to the instructions, he had to turn north after take-off, and only in the area of ​​Herzliya, turn south and follow towards Sharm al-Sheikh.

https://www.vesty.co.il/articles/0,7...078547,00.html

DaveReidUK 31st Jan 2018 08:34


Originally Posted by Kulverstukas (Post 10037208)
The incident occurred around 6:30 am

Yesterday, Tuesday 30th January.

ironbutt57 31st Jan 2018 09:19

Ive had 3 or more TCAS RA's with those King Airs over the years, all over pakistan, all seemed to have the local QNH in their altimeter settings....when queried by ATC they didnt even respond...

scr1 31st Jan 2018 13:02

Report from The Times of Israel

https://www.timesofisrael.com/within...over-tel-aviv/

Safe-T 31st Jan 2018 14:28

The image in the first post (from vesty.co.il) does not depict the evasive manoeuver.

The incident occurred closer to the shore as the B757 was on final approach:
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=205379

wiggy 31st Jan 2018 15:19


The image in the first post (from vesty.co.il) does not depict the evasive manoeuver.
In which case it would be interesting to know what the S turn was about...the usual approach from that direction is pretty much straight in for an ILS or RNAV....

ATC Watcher 31st Jan 2018 15:49

The ALT spike at time encounter in the FR24 graph would indicate an TCAS climb, and following the RA would not need lateral deviation.
The "S" turn is much earlier and possibly a delaying vector to sequence I would say. But speculating.

EladElap 31st Jan 2018 17:04


Originally Posted by Safe-T (Post 10037526)
The image in the first post (from vesty.co.il) does not depict the evasive manoeuver.

The incident occurred closer to the shore as the B757 was on final approach:
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=205379

That report seems to indicate that this UN flight was operated by the US Army.


The Beechcraft C-12V Huron (Super King Air for military use) 95-0101, operated by the U.S. Army under flight number MFO692 to Sharm el Sheikh, Egypt.

Espada III 1st Feb 2018 05:51


Originally Posted by ATC Watcher (Post 10037599)
The ALT spike at time encounter in the FR24 graph would indicate an TCAS climb, and following the RA would not need lateral deviation.
The "S" turn is much earlier and possibly a delaying vector to sequence I would say. But speculating.

I suspect it was, as there was an El AL 744 from Bangkok that came from the opposite direction but landed on the same runway immediately before.


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