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Buzzing 30th Mar 2017 03:08

Emirates and Scoot collided at Changi Airport, Singapore, today
 
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These pics just received from a colleague ...

Apparently happened this morning ...

underfire 30th Mar 2017 06:04

A388 peels open a B788 on the ground at Changi
 
Singaporean budget carrier Scoot made contact with an Emirates aircraft during early hours Thursday at Changi Airport, Singapore.

Both Changi Airport and Scoot confirmed that an on-ground accident happened between Emirates EK405, which was bound for Dubai, and Scoot TZ188, which was departing for Tianjin.

The left wing of Scoot flight TZ188 "came into contact with an Emirates aircraft…while TZ188 was taxiing before take-off," a Scoot representative told CNBC.

A Changi Airport spokesperson told CNBC that there were no injuries and passengers aboard the Emirates plane were re-booked on other flights scheduled to depart later on Thursday.

The left wing of Scoot flight TZ188 "came into contact with an Emirates aircraft…while TZ188 was taxiing before take-off," a Scoot representative told CNBC.

http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc...g?v=1490845756

http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc...g?v=1490846247

EDIT: Looks like Scoot tried to drive under them.....pretty far off on a taxi....

bringin the battle to the ground! AB 1 B 0!

Dufo 30th Mar 2017 06:18

That wingtip is one sturdy slicer!
I am wondering about where did that metal bouquet come from?

Old Fella 30th Mar 2017 06:26

Sturdy Slicer
 
Dufo asks "where did that metal bouquet come from"?

It looks very much like the bottom of the "Sturdy Slicer" to me. i.e. the lower edge of the A380 wingtip.

dfstrottersfan 30th Mar 2017 06:57

Is that Right Wing v Right wing? i.e. taxing in opposite directions?
Scoot guy says left wing on 787 but that looks right wing to me ?

DaveReidUK 30th Mar 2017 07:12

It looks like it, but it isn't.

Right wing of the A380 and left wing of the 787 (which must have hit the A380 from behind).

Easier to see on this photo:

http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/de...?itok=bF0GLVZU

The damage to the 787 wing is a long way inboard, so the wings must have overlapped by a fair amount ...

dfstrottersfan 30th Mar 2017 07:49

DaveReidUK Thanks - yes that is much clearer.

How easily repairable are composite wings , or is a new wing required ?

readywhenreaching 30th Mar 2017 07:54

prob occured close to the NC3 - U1 junction

https://twitter.com/JacdecNew/

http://www.gerryairways.com/

eckhard 30th Mar 2017 08:04

Ouch! Looks like the 788 wingtip is damaged as well?

McNugget 30th Mar 2017 08:45

Blimey, that 380 must have looked HUGE to the Scoot crew, if the 787 sustained damage so far inboard.

Anyone know how the 'composite aspect' of this will play out? Complications etc...

Volume 30th Mar 2017 10:01

Composite repair to wings is done for over 50 years now, wings completely broken off have been successfully repaired probably 100 times.
Of course this is a complicated job requiring skilled specialists. Starting with damage determination. What looks damaged from the outside might be totally destroyed on the inside, what looks fine on the outside might be damaged on the inside. This aircraft will not fly this month...

guided 30th Mar 2017 11:40

From the first picture it looks like the 788 also lost a wingtip

Volume 30th Mar 2017 11:57

It does not have one to start with ;)
But it looks like the wintip came in contact with something, probably a flap track fairing.

Seloco 30th Mar 2017 12:10

Interesting! I'd always assumed that A380 winglets were composite, but it appears not.

JammedStab 30th Mar 2017 18:19

A quick question about the composite wing of the 788 from someone with little knowledge about the subject. The picture posted by Dave Reid appears to show rivets on the curled up portion of the skin. I didn't expect to see that. Can someone explain further?

fenland787 30th Mar 2017 18:41

There are quite a few removable panels on the underside, those could well be the captive part of the fasteners for those - they look like the things I recall seeing as I grovelled around the WIPS wiring in leading edge...in the dark...and cold...and Seattle rain.....

llagonne66 30th Mar 2017 20:30

IMHO the curled metal part on top of the 787 wing belongs to the wingtip of the A380

P7xkk 31st Mar 2017 06:18

Could be part of a leading edge falsework panel, as the fence is composite - I think ��
Certainly several components are being replaced before the a/c flies again.

sleeve of wizard 31st Mar 2017 07:00

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No apportioning of blame.

The Old Swedish 31st Mar 2017 07:17

Changi pushback
 
Today we got clearance from SIN GND to push from C25 facing north to release abeam C23. The ground crew tells me: "The standard procedure here is to push abeam C22."

I answered that this instruction is from ATC and I want him to push abeam C23.

The guy ignored me and pushed abeam C22...

Now because the ground crews are scared of a similar incident, another one is due to happen because they do their standard stuff even when being advised to do it in a different way...


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