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4runner 28th Aug 2018 19:01

I love how Airbus pilots call Boeing’s “old” technology. True, a 737 is the aeronautical equivalent of a record player and the NG is a brand new record player, with a digital display...however, think about this, the 76 is 2 years older than a 320 and the production line is booked solid for the next 15 years. 30 year old 737’s are still very much in service worldwide and are being converted to freighters in the NG(digital record player) model already as opposed to being converted into beer cans. Another fantastic feature of 200 year old technology is that the Captain can see what FO spike hair instachat is doing with the controls.

industry insider 31st Aug 2018 12:40

Reading the report, I am a bit confused


In 2016, 1596 unstable approaches were captured, which equates to 0.86% of all approaches conducted by WestJet. Of those, 1452 (approximately 91%) continued to a landing and 144 (approximately 9%) resulted in a go-around. The majority of WestJet’s 1596 unstable approaches in 2016 were characterized by rate-of-descent exceedances, and during 609 of them the aircraft exceeded 1300 fpm for more than 2 seconds during descent between 1000 feet AGL and 500 feet AGL.
In many of the OM I have read, being "unstable" requires a mandatory go around?

sansmoteur 31st Aug 2018 13:18


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 10235601)
Another fantastic feature of 200 year old technology is that the Captain can see what FO spike hair instachat is doing with the controls.

Laughing hard !!!

KenV 5th Sep 2018 13:01


Originally Posted by 4runner (Post 10235601)
Another fantastic feature of 200 year old technology is that the Captain can see what FO spike hair instachat is doing with the controls.

Oddly enough, there's plenty of "modern" FBW technology that lets the pilot know what the other pilot or the computer is doing with the controls. The F-35, F-18, F-15, 777, 787, 777X all have back driven controls that provide visual and tactile feedback of what is going on. So there's really no reason for a flight control architecture that does not have back driven controls.

aterpster 5th Sep 2018 13:18


Originally Posted by KenV (Post 10241929)
Oddly enough, there's plenty of "modern" FBW technology that lets the pilot know what the other pilot or the computer is doing with the controls. The F-35, F-18, F-15, 777, 787, 777X all have back driven controls that provide visual and tactile feedback of what is going on. So there's really no reason for a flight control architecture that does not have back driven controls.

You missed the point. :)

KenV 5th Sep 2018 14:16


Originally Posted by aterpster (Post 10241945)
You missed the point. :)

There's a lot of that going around lately ;)

glad rag 5th Sep 2018 15:34

And around we go again...


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