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Viper 7 27th Feb 2017 12:04

KLM flight diverted to St. John's after pilot falls ill
 
KLM flight diverted to St. John's after pilot falls ill - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News


A Royal Dutch Airlines (KLM) flight was diverted to St. John's International Airport Saturday evening on its way from Amsterdam to New York City after the pilot needed immediate medical attention.

olympus 27th Feb 2017 14:13

Another poorly-written story about 'the pilot' of a 'plane' from a reporter with little aviation knowledge. When will they learn that there are two pilots (at least), a captain and a first officer. Which one was taken ill?

Jhieminga 27th Feb 2017 14:28

The Captain was taken ill during the flight. The original story on AT5 (linked to in the CBC News article) does mention this but perhaps the CBC reporter had trouble translating from Dutch.

fox niner 27th Feb 2017 15:11

There were 3 pilots on board. He is going to be fine.
End of thread.

LookingForAJob 27th Feb 2017 15:23


He is going to be fine.
Good to know. After the crew handled the flight properly, this is all that matters.

oldchina 27th Feb 2017 16:07

The Dutch would understand if it was the Curry Kapitan .

sleeper 27th Feb 2017 16:27


Originally Posted by fox niner (Post 9689878)
There were 3 pilots on board. He is going to be fine.
End of thread.

Amsterdam to Jfk? Nope, two pilots.

Airbubba 27th Feb 2017 16:41


Originally Posted by fox niner (Post 9689878)
There were 3 pilots on board.

Is three pilots normal for AMS-JFK this time of year? I've seen some airlines add a third pilot westbound for winter winds and operate with two at other times of the year.

And, I've jumpseated on a United B-744 back in the glory days before Y2K where they operated ORD-NRT with four pilots. The fourth pilot was put on to 'plot' from what the captain told me.

Also, the guy on the radio in KLM 623 sounded kinda like a gringo to me. I ran into an American KLM pilot years ago in SEL (before ICN opened). I believe he was with TWA and said KLM picked up a few of his former colleagues as well.

JW411 27th Feb 2017 16:47

CYYT must be getting quite busy. A little birdie tells me that VS had a similar divert in there a couple of weeks ago with a sick captain - 2 pilots - JFK to London.

sleeper 27th Feb 2017 16:48


Originally Posted by Airbubba (Post 9689967)
Is three pilots normal for AMS-JFK this time of year? I've seen some airlines add a third pilot westbound for winter winds and operate with two at other times of the year.

And, I've jumpseated on a United B-744 back in the glory days before Y2K where they operated ORD-NRT with four pilots. The fourth pilot was put on to 'plot' from what the captain told me.

Also, the guy on the radio in KLM 623 sounded kinda like a gringo to me. I ran into an American KLM pilot years ago in SEL (before ICN opened). I believe he was with TWA and said KLM picked up a few of his former colleagues as well.

Normal ops throughout the year, ams-jfk, is two pilots. Exceptions are training or checking. In this case no checking as new crew was flown in from Jfk.

Herod 27th Feb 2017 17:02


When will they learn that there are two pilots (at least), a captain and a first officer.
Hear , hear. I was flying as passenger a few years back and, in conversation with a CC member my wife mentioned that I flew. "Oh, are you a pilot, of a First Officer?" And this from cabin crew!!! I despair

sleeper 27th Feb 2017 17:30

Maybe we should not be too harsh with the media. The terms used to be "pilot" and "copilot" , with pilot being the captain.
That changed to "captain" and " first officer" just like "chief pilot " changed to "operational manager" or something like it.
As long as people understand which person is meant it is ok.
However when the media think there is only one "real" pilot upfront, then yes, you have a point.

back to Boeing 27th Feb 2017 17:47

European operators including my outfit 2 to east coast. I believe American operators require 3 to cross the pond.

GlobalNav 27th Feb 2017 22:24

If a "pilot" had a medical emergency, then what does it matter - Captain, First Officer?
The stop is for the pilot, not for the airplane, right?

Lancelot de boyles 27th Feb 2017 23:36


Originally Posted by Olympus
When will they learn that there are two pilots (at least), a captain and a first officer?

Well, there have been quite a few advertisements in very recent times, by a fairly well know aviation contract agency that some may know (Rsihowrth) that asked the question 'Are you a pilot or first officer'
So, I guess if some of those in the industry are unaware, then the ignorant rags will be poorly advised



...not that I am defending the rags!


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