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fabiensf 24th Oct 2016 06:01

Metroliner crash after T/O in Malta
 
Photos: Aircraft crashes in Luqa - timesofmalta.com

Less Hair 24th Oct 2016 08:31

Very steep bank...

https://3a09223b3cd53870eeaa-7f75e5e...8d-620x348.jpg
picture by Laurent Azzopardi

Kyprianos Biris 24th Oct 2016 08:59

Caught on camera for a few seconds:
https://www.facebook.com/lazz178.mt/...type=2&theater

AN2 Driver 24th Oct 2016 09:16

https://youtu.be/wMiDMVyfCeA

Looks like it's turned more or less on it's back.

Vmc accident? Would not be the first for the Metros...

SanHor 24th Oct 2016 09:31

Rumours that it's N577MX

danielson81 24th Oct 2016 10:16

Live updates here: https://www.maltairport.com/index.html

Yes they have confirmed its N577MX.

Cyrano 24th Oct 2016 10:49

More information - apparently the flight was part of a French customs surveillance operation.

KyleTheAviator 24th Oct 2016 11:36

Looks a lot like a stall with a wing drop.
Pilot may have panicked and tried to roll out aggravating the stall.
would explain the inversion and low speed.

Mimpe 24th Oct 2016 11:50

The video I saw from a dashboard cam, has it pretty much upside down at about 200 ft alt

AlphaZuluRomeo 24th Oct 2016 12:20

Not "customs" related.
Plane & crew from CAE.
Pax personnel "under the Ministry of Defence".

ATC Watcher 24th Oct 2016 12:22


apparently the flight was part of a French customs surveillance operation.
Sources in France are speaking about 3 French military and 2 civilians ,( the pilots of the leased a/c ) Ministry of defense confirmed the death of 3 of its personal.
Another source ( Ouest France ) indicate the a/c was leased from Luxembourg by the French Civil intelligence service DGSE and Military Intelligence DRM . Looking at the intended destination this does not sound like Customs surveillance.

LGW Vulture 24th Oct 2016 12:57

I had not heard of CAE previously. So am basically interested how the government and military might be seemingly flouting EASA hire and reward regulations with an N reg'd aircraft.

Clearly the French were paying for this through a "lease" arrangement. I mean we either have rules, or we don't. Or am I jumping the gun a little?

Hussar 54 24th Oct 2016 14:06

Very valid question....It will be interesting to see exactly what the leasing details were, assuming we ever find out.

unworry 24th Oct 2016 14:11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpdWQYCk2Q

footage of burning crash site and arrival of emergency vehicles, taken by a passenger onboard a flight waiting to depart

212man 24th Oct 2016 14:18


I mean we either have rules, or we don't. Or am I jumping the gun a little?
Which 'rule(s)' are you referring to, specifically? Bear in mind, also, that this would constitute SPO and not CAT, so is not subject to the Third Country Operators Regulation.

LGW Vulture 24th Oct 2016 14:23

If the aircraft is being paid for then it is hire and reward surely? If that is the case, aircraft should be EASA. It should not matter if this is special operations.

Again, if special operations can evade this requirement then fair enough. However, it should not. In my view of course.

ATC Watcher 24th Oct 2016 15:29

LGW Vulture :
DRM ( French military intelligence service) recognized now they chartered the aircraft.
The company :
CAE-AVIATION - Airborne Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Services - Army Technology

sleeper 24th Oct 2016 15:36

Does the metroliner have a gustlock device?

finfly1 24th Oct 2016 15:50

AviationDB - Aviation Database - Aircraft N577MX

krohmie 24th Oct 2016 15:52

Interesting question if you look at this old AD http://services.casa.gov.au/airworth...WSA226-052.pdf


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