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skytrax 26th Jun 2016 12:59

AA evacuates at LHR-smoke in the cabin
 
Slide deployed at the stand. APU failure, apparently.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rosshisco...951936/video/1

Super VC-10 26th Jun 2016 13:31

American Airlines plane evacuated at Heathrow Airport | Metro News

gatbusdriver 26th Jun 2016 14:07

I don't have all the facts........In fact I have no idea what happened as I wasn't there.........but I do look forward to the 15 page diagnosis of whether the Captain made the right decision or not.

I hand the thread over to the armchair critics (what was the weather at the time?)

oleostrut 26th Jun 2016 15:16

Saw a pic of a firetruck tending to the APU area of the tail.

PAXboy 26th Jun 2016 16:16


A spokeswoman for Heathrow Airport said a ‘technical issue’ was identified with the aircraft but the problem has now been resolved.
Phew, that's lucky. :rolleyes:

OldLurker 26th Jun 2016 16:24


Originally Posted by gatbusdriver (Post 9420883)
I don't have all the facts........In fact I have no idea what happened as I wasn't there.........but I do look forward to the 15 page diagnosis of whether the Captain made the right decision or not.

I hand the thread over to the armchair critics (what was the weather at the time?)

Since this incident happened at LHR, in due course the AAIB will give us all the details and a good analysis. No point posting here until then.

Capot 27th Jun 2016 09:50

Interesting to study this event in the context of the SIA fire (see thread).......in both cases we have no reason whatsoever to question the crews' decisions, but they were very different......

Wageslave 27th Jun 2016 11:02


in both cases we have no reason whatsoever to question the crews' decisions, but they were very different......
A wing is on fire from tip to root and no evac is ordered - and we "have no reason whatsoever to question the...decision"

This must rate as one of the most astonishing assertions of the month.

ManaAdaSystem 27th Jun 2016 11:34


Quote:
in both cases we have no reason whatsoever to question the crews' decisions, but they were very different......
A wing is on fire from tip to root and no evac is ordered - and we "have no reason whatsoever to question the...decision"

This must rate as one of the most astonishing assertions of the month.
Indeed!
And the number one killer in fires is smoke. The AA evacuation was a good call.

airpolice 27th Jun 2016 11:44

Gatbusdriver, I suspect that you are inferring the decision to evac down the slide was made by the captain.

ManaAdaSystem; Really, out to the source of the fire, not up the airbridge to safety, away from the fire like everyone else?

But hey, we weren't there, I guess that at the back of a queue of fur quits trying to unpack their overhead locker and collect their belongings, the slide might look very appealing.

ManaAdaSystem 27th Jun 2016 12:05


ManaAdasSystem; Really, out to the source of the fire, not up the airbridge to safety, away from the fire like everyone else?
Up the airbridge is also a way to evacuate the passengers. I just made a comment on the decision to evacuate.

Basil 27th Jun 2016 12:36


A wing is on fire from tip to root and no evac is ordered - and we "have no reason whatsoever to question the...decision"
Are you confusing this with the SIA incident?

DaveReidUK 27th Jun 2016 15:09


Originally Posted by Basil (Post 9421922)

A wing is on fire from tip to root and no evac is ordered - and we "have no reason whatsoever to question the...decision"
Are you confusing this with the SIA incident?

No he isn't. As would have been clear if you had quoted him correctly:


in both cases we have no reason whatsoever to question the crews' decisions, but they were very different......
The OP is drawing parallels (whether valid or not) between the AAL and SIA incidents.

gatbusdriver 27th Jun 2016 17:12

Sorry......I wasn't inferring anything. I just find that these days people like to second guess people's actions when they have little or no facts (see SIA thread). Funnily enough that has not happened here yet, although probably because the SIA is a much more impressive event.

avionimc 28th Jun 2016 08:11


Saw a pic of a firetruck tending to the APU area of the tail.
...and smoke coming out from the back of the aircraft (APU).

Any reason why then, they evacuated from the far AFT exits near the tail?

DaveReidUK 28th Jun 2016 09:00


Originally Posted by avionimc (Post 9422926)
Any reason why then, they evacuated from the far AFT exits near the tail?

The purpose of an evacuation is to get all the passengers off the aircraft as quickly and safely as possible.

Presumably it was judged that deploying the rear slides would help to achieve that by reducing the number of passengers who had to move through the aircraft to the forward entry door that was still attached to the jetty.

As it happened, only about a dozen pax left via the slides, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was a bad call.

Capn Bloggs 28th Jun 2016 12:47


Presumably it was judged that deploying the...
Probably more like... FA looks through door hole (as per SOP?), no hazard sighted, out they go. Half way down the slide they look over their shoulder and see the smoke. :)

Basil 28th Jun 2016 13:16


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 9422076)
No he isn't. As would have been clear if you had quoted him correctly:

The OP is drawing parallels (whether valid or not) between the AAL and SIA incidents.

Ah, was that it?

Jimmy Hoffa Rocks 29th Jun 2016 16:04

Questioning Captain Decision
 
For those armchair critics questioning Captain decisions to evacuate or not in general.

Put your self in the Captains position, actually, try to learn and look at it either way, the Captain´s decision to evacuate or not, is the right one. Why so you ask ? Because the Captain was there and under the circumstances made the decision, not easy.

That taking into account an evacuation, some of people evacuated will end up in the hospital with injuries.

Remember that an accident investigator would not dare to unsubstantiated claims until after the investigation, and would not succumb to conjecture.

Water pilot 29th Jun 2016 17:08

AA in Seattle returns due to fire, possibly APU
 
Tower reported flames out the back. All O.K.

Same airline, same unit? Give it some extra attention on your checks.


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