If i don't need a passport (and in 90%+ cases not even an ID) to travel within most of the EU, why would i need a passport to travel domestically in any other country?

@ Denti and DaveReidUK
Incorrect attribution removed.
@Denti: did not pick up on your link earlier, thanks for that as well.

SLFGuy
The idiot on the right is allegedly a Health & Safety auditor. I wouldn't have thought that job includes being trained to spot and deal with a Bomb, or IED, and weapon detection situation. He did, which suggests he is an idiot. A gurning idiot at that, IMO.

Hi all - see this link to what was said on the flight. EgyptAir Hijack Passenger Reveals Fiasco Over Frozen Chicken Amid Flight Terror

Leaving aside the seriousness of this incident, which clearly raises even more questions than before about the 'up' and 'brewery' level of Egyptian aviation security.

As I, and others, pointed out in a previous post, you will not find that quote on the BBC website, as it is almost the complete opposite of what DL actually said.

Instead of

he in fact suggested that the captain's understandable lack of faith in Egyptian airport security meant that compliance with the hijacker's demands was a far more prudent option than calling his bluff.

Even with hindsight, it's hard to argue with that.

Did they allow guns or explosive on board of the aircraft?

Security pre-boarding IS farcical, as I think any grownup knows. Any biro pen, or indeed pencil, is totally lethal when wielded by someone with knowledge, yet I am allowed through with both, whereas my wife forgot to put our corkscrew/ bottle opener, sommelier-type, in the hold bag and was deprived of it. The blade was a full inch/3cm long, and blunt as buggery.

One of these haha stag party groups, all with pens, could do a very passable hijacking.

I am not complaining about loss of opener: anyone needing a drink will find a way to open a bottle!

Liquid in containers? ........ keep below the limit and add ingredients in the bog.

At every airport security en-route Heathrow-Dubai-Singapore-Brisbane-Perth-Singapore-Dubai it was apparent that the shoe/boot check was random. At one of these, staff were passing ground side to airside without checks, right before my eyes.

Farcical.

I would really like to believe the passenger took the photo so he could send it to the police and show them what the hijacker looked like. Sadly, I doubt that's the case.

OK, Thanks Dave, I'll revoke all that.

At what point of the hijack was the selfie taken?

p.s. If taken by another person, is it still a 'selfie'?

Same situation but departure airport London or New York, it is suggested that the captain should have just shrugged it off, laughed in his face and continued to destination?

Stupid, idiot, imbecile, nut case... matters not what best fits the hijacker. The fact remains he hijacked an aircraft. The sentence for such a crime in the UK as prescribed under the Aviation Security Act 1982 is life imprisonment. I suppose all the journalistic crap will help him no end to avoid trial as non compos mentis, especially if his so called suicide vest turns out to have been fashioned out of a straight jacket. I do sincerely hope.straight jacket or not, there is no such plea in Egypt.That is if the Egyptians manage to get him out of Cyprus .

How soon after departure was the 'hijack' effected?

A flight from Alexandria to Cairo is scheduled to take 45 minutes (so actual airborn time is probably less - maybe 30-35 minutes).

It's emerging now that this guy has been deported previously from Cyprus after arriving on false papers (reported on BBC Radio Five).

In that case the suggestion that the other chap was having a look at the vest is plausible as is the likelyhood that forming a personal bond with the hijacker reduces his will to detonate a viable device.

Sorry Basil but I suspect since the cabin crew will have already interacted with the vest wearer the personal bond bit had already been done. As for our plucky British chap analysing the device, well unless our "hero" has a background he's not owning up to (which I guess might be possible) I think he was merely being a bit of a prat...

It seems the selfie guy wasn't so dumb after all. He wanted it done so the pic would identify the hijacker and the crew were in on the act.

I must take exception with the Learmont " Monday morning expert", analysis of the Commanders decision. With an unrestrained psychotic personality on board, whether explosively armed or not, the result is a hijack at least, and carnage at most. The best place for this aircraft was on the deck, in friendly harbor. I have found in years past, CAI, as somewhat lax security wise, I'm sure tightened now, but with underwear, sock and other garment ideas, diversion was the only smart operational option.

Safe Journies...Sushi

crewmeal

TBH seems to me the "selfie" gentleman has been changing his story every five minutes since he got home and got a flea in his ear from his Mum.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...rom-his-mother


...and frankly if the crew were "in on the act" and encouraged a passenger to pull this stunt then :mad:

Except that you haven't. You've agreed with his analysis and conclusions, almost word-for-word in fact (why not read the thread a bit more closely?).

Oh, and it's Learmount.