I do remember on a Monarch flight to Malaga from Man circa 20 years ago where about 12-15 on a stag do.

Flight circa 60% full. Group spread all round close to back of plane.

Guy in charge said to passengers around they on stag, apologised well in advance for behaviour and suggested that if they wanted to swap with others on stag so they all in one place.

Everybody did including gorgeous BA trainer that sat and chatted to me all flight and never asked for her number :ugh:

The stag party drank and a bit loud / leery but even FA said they ok and had 2 who were in control.

Spoke to one of stag group waiting for bags and said thanks, he looked on being in control for a couple of hours as better than all getting chucked off flight. He claimed the deal all agreed was 2 in charge were in charge and ensured they all got there.

Now airlines flying stag / hens the option I like is find someone in charge and make it clear before flight takes off that will deny all boarding or cancel all if have to divert.

On this specific flight I think 48 hours held in custody and then released is a good option as they miss everything.

FR is not only one that has issues with Stag/Hens as everybody has.

Drunkeness on flight is not a LCC issue, its an airline issue for all.

ExXB, The legal powers of the aircraft commander take effect from doors closed.

Personal responsibility
 

The concept of personal responsibility needs to be taken into account. It could be free booze and they are still responsible for behaving like responsible members of society. Frankly, I'm appalled by your suggestion that these morons are somehow victims of circumstance and a weak will.

Probably get a better deal in a supermarket! :ok:

From the public point of view the era of romance has certainly left aviation for good. Aircraft and the personnel who fly them are sadly no more important these days than taxi drivers or bus drivers on the booze bus for the last lift home. Sad but true.

Often said but there is an enormous legal difference. Your taxi driver doesn't have the legal authority to tell you what to do; an aircraft commander does.

Maybe I'm just cynical but I highly doubt that any airline's true first priority is safety.

I would bet it is profit, and that for the most part they wouldn't care that much about safety if it wasn't so intrinsically linked by reputation to profit.



Also, Ryanair's statement of "not tolerating unruly or disruptive behaviour at any time" is clearly not true if the flight made it all the way to Germany... if they didn't tolerate it they'd have been denied boarding, or offloaded before departure

The bit on the BBC report that I suggest could be a cause for some concern as to what peoples priorities are these days is where the groom who accepts that his mates were wrong goes on to say that he is considering legal advice as it was wrongly reported in the German news that he was one of them which has caused distress to him and his family.
Maybe the disrupted passengers should consider legal advice against the stag party for the not inconsiderable distress they were subject to.

In the days when I had my own offshore business and in the days when Latvian banks were offshore I had a few business/banking trips to/from Riga.

Riga was a RYR destination, now I wonder why I knew exactly what sort of 'sex tourists' to expect on a RYR flight to a 'sex tourist' destination and why I alternatively chose to fly to/from Riga with KLM.

These punters opt for the cheapest of the cheap to such 'sex tourist' destinations and "shock, horror" when other punters may become rowdy.

They got what they paid for!

Just an armchair passenger but I was wondering under what country's legislation are these cases handled? Country of origin, destination, registration or over where it happened or where it diverted to? For example, a divert to Riyadh for drunkenness would probably add a few extra slashes to the deal?

Meanwhile a new Gin 'distillery' opens at LGW.........

Gin distillery at Gatwick Airport means fancy cocktails before you fly | Metro News

Say no more!

Mother's Ruin seems to be enjoying a renaissance. (Warning! Aviation content) Another new gin on the market is Shetland Reel. It is produced in the former supplies building of what was, until 2006, RAF Saxa Vord in Shetland.

Can someone let me know which loco airlines serve 'cheap alcohol'? The ones I travel on wear a mask and a striped jersey when pushing the drinks trolly:sad:

The one round trip I flew with RYR (only because they were the only airline to serve VST) the beer was warm and the sandwich was stale.

Who can blame punters for getting sh1tfaced in the terminal before boarding?

I think you'll find these days most pax are locals visiting family in the UK and vice versa.

Spain/Canaries are by far the worst in my experience. However, the thought of being nicked by either the French or Spanish police tends to sober people up fairly quickly when it is suggested they behave or else!

Doesn't F & J produce obnoxious drunkards or is it just a reaction to the occasional bedbugs?

Many a year ago I was airline Ops and I found myself training up a new (ex Servisair) Ops Controller.

He and I hit it off straight away and I'll never forget his words "The cheaper the fare the worse the passenger".

That was oh so true, in the UK IT world Spain, particularly the 2hr rather than 2hr 30min flights, were the worst, Corfu, rather than the likes of Kos and Rhodes, was another 'lager lout' destination ... and as for the Channel Islands ... well!

Of course these days we have airlines offering fares for stupid amounts of money ... They are their own worst enemy.

It's certainly a case of the destination rather than the airline. Fly Ryanair to Carcassonne, Bergamo etc and you'll be surrounded by 'nice people'. Fly certain other destinations and the same might not be true, regardless of the name on the side of the plane.

Fair point but if there are 10 or 15 of them and they're dressed as tarts I think we can deduce which category they fall into