Citation VII crashed in Brazil
November 10th, a Citation VII, with prefix PT-WQH, crashed in Brazil.
There were 4 souls onboard: two crew and two important executives from one of the biggest banks of Brazil (Bradesco). No survivors. Preliminary news says that the plane was at FL360 when there was a sudden drop of altitude. One photo of the crash site can be seen here: O Antagonista - Urgente: Executivos do Bradesco morrem em queda de jatinho |
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Picures of crash crater
A/C buried in crater wall
http://goo.gl/KAMXCq http://goo.gl/Swyyo7 http://goo.gl/v5o7oG http://goo.gl/oVxASX http://goo.gl/w5q6CA http://goo.gl/DVhb5q http://goo.gl/weVGjw Last radar: FL 360. No phone comm. |
Video showing important details
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That was a very high energy accident! Probably close to Mach I.
Does the Citation VII experience Mach tuck under certain conditions? Not an aircraft that I've flown so I don't know the 'Gotchas'. |
High energy impact
Hi, Machinbird
Long time since intense AF447 effort. :) I was imagining a scenario of depressurization and a LOC during dive. Plane was 4 POB in a leg of 1 1/2 hour and radar echoes were lost when at 360. I have more data to post. Will do it right now. Rgds, Mac |
Some clues
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Agricultural machine operator:
Note that the crater shown above is consistent with that said one farm machine operator: "He took a pop, I thought it was thunder When I saw it [the aircraft] flew in very low woods I thought he would land..but I went straight and saw the explosion. "
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Does the Citation VII experience Mach tuck under certain conditions?
We are discussing here the issue. We will touch this point.
My son, the one that made the RTW in 2012 sent me a report on an issue on this a/c. Will send you. |
Observe something like VS marked ground before crater I saw that. Could be a ground scar from a wing also. |
Wing would be more deep?
I imagined VS tip first. Probability of wing tip, much higher!
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Cessna jets
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In 2008 a citation III, essentialy the same type, had an quite similar accident in Venezuela. Dived from cruise altitude in to the ground. ACCIDENTE DEL N385EM, ANACO, ANZOATEGUI, VENEZUELA
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@Silvio Pettirossi: Was there a probable cause established for this accident?
The following (unofficial) info is available @Contato Radar (Brazilian aviation forum) and other news sites: - Aircraft was cleared by ATC from FL360 to FL410. Soon after it was seen descending 1000 ft and then disappeared from radar (secondary, primary?) - No mayday or other Tx was heard - 3 months ago, aircraft was in Wichita being refurbished/refitted (no details yet) - Maintenance was supposedly top notch, performed either by TAM or at the factory. She had her own dedicated mechanic (the bank's other jet, a G200, has a different dedicated mechanic) - No FDR, only CVR - A 2002 AD addressed the possibility of runaway trim, but it's hard to think it hasn't been taken care of. A weird accident by all accounts. |
CVR found
According to G1 - CVR found, the CVR was found, but it status is unknown. Perhaps some news will be released soon
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