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LookingForAJob 3rd Nov 2015 21:18

Oh, they wouldn't......would they?
 
Footage of Vulcan performing barrel roll investigated - BBC News

The Civil Aviation Authority has confirmed it is investigating whether the last flying Avro Vulcan broke aviation rules by carrying out a barrel roll during one of its final flights.

The footage purportedly shows the Vulcan performing a roll while flying over Grantham, Lincolnshire, on 4 October.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 3rd Nov 2015 21:21

What will they do? Ground it? I bet Roly Falk has a grin on his face.

Machinbird 3rd Nov 2015 21:23

What do they think it is, an airliner?:rolleyes:

Gertrude the Wombat 3rd Nov 2015 21:26


What will they do? Ground it?
Alternatively they could cancel the pilot's type rating :):=:D

edmundronald 3rd Nov 2015 21:53

This old video about the 707 may be relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KNbKFMBsQE

A and C 3rd Nov 2015 22:15

Not real........it never happened
 
I think this is a very skilful and well put together video joke and just like the photos of Ray Hanna flying the Spitfire between the grandstands at Goodwood, it is undoubtedly a masterpiece of Photoshop techniques.

No doubt the CAA will have enough to nouse to take this wise attitude to this video faulsification.

Whiskey Papa 3rd Nov 2015 23:03

Falsified and very badly. Don't agree it's skillful or well put together. Well over half the frames have been omitted because the compiler couldn't be bothered to stitch two different shots together. Who uses an HD camera at 3 frames per second?

WP

peekay4 3rd Nov 2015 23:16


Who uses an HD camera at 3 frames per second?
The video is looks to be from a series of still frames taken in "burst" mode -- or possibly from a time lapse -- which depending on the camera might only be 4 to 5 fps max.

So we can't discount its authenticity solely on the basis of fps or the fact that it looks a little strange. Someone will have the original full resolution frames for the CAA to investigate.

mickjoebill 4th Nov 2015 00:05


Originally Posted by peekay4 (Post 9168142)
The video is looks to be from a series of still frames taken in "burst" mode -- or possibly from a time lapse -- which depending on the camera might only be 4 to 5 fps max.

So we can't discount its authenticity solely on the basis of fps or the fact that it looks a little strange....

The angle of incidence of the sun and the shadows it casts and the specular reflections are unequivically consistant with the aircraft rolling.

Yes, this could be faked, but the reflections and highlights are very difficult to manage. Reducing the number of frames makes faking easier.


Mickjoebill

Max Angle 4th Nov 2015 00:38


just like the photos of Ray Hanna flying the Spitfire between the grandstands at Goodwood, it is undoubtedly a masterpiece of Photoshop techniques.
No photoshop involved with that one.

Jet Jockey A4 4th Nov 2015 06:35

Of course they would!

They have nothing better to do, they are bureaucrats and have to justify their jobs!

Solar 4th Nov 2015 06:48

If this is proven to be a photoshop effort and a poor one at that, will the Beeb publish a retraction, will the "aviation enthusiast" who reportedly took it be taken to book or is this expecting too much.

RAT 5 4th Nov 2015 07:18

Why is it prohibited? Surely they encountered a momentary upset, due to convergence and local weather phenomenon often encountered over the moors when easterly sea breezes meet an atlantic airflow with orographic updrafts, which resulted in an unusual attitude recovery manoeuvre. An excellent demonstration of piloting skills, rarely seen these days, that saved the grand old lady from an untimely burial on same said moors. Case proven M'lud.

Ancient-Mariner 4th Nov 2015 07:29

As my CFI said: CAA = Campaign Against Aviation


Cheers!


Clive

Wirbelsturm 4th Nov 2015 07:38


As my CFI said: CAA = Campaign Against Aviation
Or, alternatively, CAA = Cash Again Again

A and C 4th Nov 2015 08:02

Max angle
 
You really are not very bright !

If the flight by Ray Hanna at Goodwood was real then the CAA would have to take action for fear that no end of public protection elf & safety left wing tree hungging publicity seeking lawyers would have them in court for something or other.

Far better to deem the evidence to be an act of Photoshop than the alternative,it is a wise tradition that goes back to the days of Nelson once raised his telescope to blind eye and declared " I see no ships".

RAT 5 4th Nov 2015 08:22

I f'orght elf en saf'ty in Ray Hanna's case ='d SKILL + PRACHUTE (just in case)

nacluv 4th Nov 2015 08:25

A&C: Speaking as one who is clearly not very bright, how do you explain that I, among several hundred others, directly witnessed that event with our own eyes?

And the many others who have written about the same thing ever since it happened back in 1998? The many videos and photographs of the event? All fictitious? Arse!

DaveReidUK 4th Nov 2015 08:29


Originally Posted by nacluv (Post 9168470)
A&C: Speaking as one who is clearly not very bright, how do you explain that I, among several hundred others, directly witnessed that event with our own eyes?

And the many others who have written about the same thing ever since it happened back in 1998? The many videos and photographs of the event? All fictitious? Arse!

I think you need to re-read A&C's post, or possibly brush up on the Battle of Copenhagen. :O

ZOOKER 4th Nov 2015 09:48

Wherever that aircraft has flown in the last month, it has been photographed and videoed, by cameras and telephones, often by people who otherwise have no interest in aviation.
If this is real, other pictures and observations would surely be available?

Alternatively, could it be a series of photographs of a well-made model?


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