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I'm grateful for the dedication and professionalism of the men and women worldwide who are willing, on a daily basis, to place the lives of passengers and crew before their own. |
Federal investigators on Friday launched a probe of an airliner fire at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport that observers speculated could have been sparked by fuel leaking from the plane. National Transportation Safety Board investigators said they will be examining whether fuel was leaking from the Venezuelan-bound Dynamic International Airways jet before takeoff on Thursday, as witnesses observed. NTSB investigator in charge Tim LeBaron told news reporters that the agency’s four-person team will try to determine the root of the fire in the Boeing 767’s left engine. “I know there’s been a lot people saying that fuel was coming from the airplane,” LeBaron said at the airport. “Well, they saw a fluid coming from the airplane. We don’t know at this point if it was fuel or not. “So that’s one of the things that we look at.” NTSB investigators will also examine the airliner’s data recorders, maintenance history and other records. LeBaron said NTSB will issue a preliminary report in five days, another report in six months and final findings in a year. |
Could it be the cheap price of fuel keeping these old birds in the air? No matter how well maintained they are with everything ticked and signed, age is going to catch up with them.
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Wageslave
Firefighters are all heroes in my book. They are the ones running into a situation (and sometimes dying in the process or at least getting severely injured) while the rest of us are running away from it. OH |
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/loca...20Plane%20FireThe rescue team unit of the ARFF responders, (the ones with the compressed air bottles on their backs), are the individuals tasked with going into the cabin and cockpit to make certain that no one is left behind after the evacuation, regardless of an active fire in progress.
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Dynamic 767
With due respect to cabin crew you don't really tackle engine fires and as for being 50m away ... I think you will find an internal fire means firefighters are entering the aircraft as your leaving
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Video of the evacuation. Pay attention to the man that falls face down and doesn't move by the tail of the jet.
https://www.facebook.com/abcnews/vid...3866917358812/ Slag away.... |
Observe the effect of a running right engine on 2R slide.:eek:
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Overwing slide on the R/H side also not deployed despite overwing exit opened
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One thing that struck me was the way the fire truck flies down the tarmac despite the fact that there are people running about. IIRC, one of the deaths from Asiana SFO was caused by a fire vehicle hitting the person. I realize that the trucks need to get foam on the fire ASAP, and maybe the long distance lens changes the perspective.
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If the same scenario happened at night or in low visibility, especially with a full, widebody, aircraft, it would be very difficult for the fire apparatus drivers to avoid hitting evacuating passengers.
The drivers' visibility, especially their peripheral vision, is extremely limited by their head gear. |
Also notice the railroad tank cars in the background just off the east end of runway 10L/28R.
These are full of highly flammable ethanol waiting to be transferred to Port Everglades about a mile further east. The ethanol is mixed with gasoline at the port before shipment to area petrol stations. |
wanabee777 -If the same scenario happened at night or in low visibility, especially with a full, widebody, aircraft, it would be very difficult for the fire apparatus drivers to avoid hitting evacuating passengers. The drivers' visibility, especially their peripheral vision, is extremely limited by their head gear. Many years ago I had the pleasure of landing a multi engine turboprop with a gear failure at a major airport in the U.S. There was an impressive response from the very well equipped ARFF. After the excitement had died down, we were standing around waiting for the equipment to remove the aircraft from the runway. I sat in one of the trucks and received a fascinating briefing. The vehicle had a huge spike on the roof that could inject foam into the aircraft. It was also equipped with image intensifying drivers equipment and infrared technology. The Firefighter informed me that they were able to drive at speed in almost zero visibility at night. I'd never seen this particular type of vehicle before, and I didn't see one in the footage from the SFO Asiana crash. Apparently part of the funding for it was provided by the very large cargo company that inhabits the airport. |
In that case, I hope both FLL and MIA have such equally equipped ARFF vehicles.
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On the clip posted by skidbuggy it's frightening to see how many passengers are carrying bags and in at least one case carrying two bags, some people don't deserve saving.
On the other side of the coin at the aft R/H door it looks like there is a presumably aircrew person doing and amazing job of getting people out, whoever they are they deserve a medal. |
A medal for doing their jobs? :hmm:
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On the other side of the coin at the aft R/H door it looks like there is a presumably aircrew person doing and amazing job of getting people out, whoever they are they deserve a medal. |
It must have been a cabin initiated evacuation. Obviously, the flight crew had yet to perform the evacuation checklist.
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rjtjrt
The person that I am referring to appears to be a flight attendant, he (looks male) looks to be ushering people on to the aft door slide and then as the last passenger is on the slide he disappears back into the aircraft and reappears out of the front door. I think it's safe to assume he went back to check that all passengers were off. That to me takes guts when you see the volume of smoke and flames, so it may be just his job but he does it extremely well and all kudos to him. Fair play to the guy that straightened the slide of course as well. |
The last two out forward on that vid, white shirts and black trousers, probably the pilot or FA. One runs back across the burning plane to assist with the injured pax on the ground behind the tail. :cool:
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