Mogadishu Cargo plane crash landing
 

Reports of an Egyptian Cargo plane crash landing in Carbiska Arbiska near Mogadishu. Reports saying an Airbus from Egypt.

AN12, 7 onboard all ok by the looks of it.

It was A300B4 SU-BMZ of Tristarairways of Egypt.http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=20151012-0

That AN12 was a file photograph. Aircraft involved was SU-BMZ, an Airbus A.300B4-203F, operated by Tristar Air. Looks like a write off.

6 onboard and all safe, no injuries, ran out of fuel after numerous attempts to land into HCMM.

im hearing the guy in the tower has now been arrested as he contributed to this.

well....that was their whole fleet...:eek:

Hmmm... there must be a thicker plot to this story. Mogadishu is not the place you go into without reserves and a plan B. While the fine land of Egypt is not exactly known for discipline and analytical thinking, even an Egyptian crew would have basic self-preservation instincts. Would be interesting to hear more details.

This report

Military cargo plane crash lands outside Mogadishu after failed landing, all occupants safe - GOOBJOOG NEWS

talks about a "suspected landing gear problem".

Nail on the head
 

I vouch for andrasz solid advice, having operated there several times.

Just think what why its nicknamed "Mog"...should make your flight planning defensive...or..you might end up in the Morgue instead!

andrasz is on the money here, the plot is thicker. MOG runway is not one that even an Egyptian crew would just turn upto unannounced, a slot time would of been granted by SCAMA.

MOG runway has no ILS, it only has 2 approaches, 23 and 05. the other problem is that the runway has no lights.

i wouldn't believe what you read in the articles below,under carriage didn't break off till the emergency landing.

better pics here

Tristar Air cargo plane crash in Somalia - in pictures | The National

Sorry, but as someone said before this just doesnt make any sense at all...On this picture it shows a patch of some harvest (maybe coffee beans?)drying in the sun on each side of the landing path(we can see another one in the distance), completely un-disturbed by the crash landing, as if the ac had been cautiously put there by a giant hand, without a single trace on the ground. WTF!!???. :confused::confused::confused:

http://s21.postimg.org/576ott03r/tri...u_151012_5.jpg

Mayhap they were sliding sideways.....

Whatever previous mistakes were made, it seems they pulled off a nice controlled crash.

Sure doesn't look like a recent crash site.
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The plane made a ground-loop coming to stop with the tail pointing almost in the direction of travel. Pics in link posted by dakota_bandit show it clearly.

Not really, by the looks of it the terrain was forgiving, but from the moment the LG was shorn off they were just passengers on the ride. Looking at the state of the nose section, there are six very lucky Egyptians out there...

There is a former military airstrip in the general area where they came down, maybe they were attempting to land on the disused runway (or may actually have). It still makes no sense to me what were they doing there with insufficient reserves to get back to Mombasa, or Lamu in the worst case.

One thing is sure: price of cast aluminium pots will come down on the Mogadishu market in the coming weeks.

Now, that's funny!!!:ROFLMAO

If somebody does not get it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjiHZvz1Mw

.. and just to reinforce the point
 

From ASN
As in the airport in Mogadishu has no runway lighting?
Anyone have the METAR(s) for the time of the attempted approaches?

MIQ, yes that is correct, the only lighting is the very small taxiway onto the ramp.

No ILS either, makes you wonder what happened to the millions of dollars in fees.

I know that SCAMA and FAVORI charge for navigation.... :ugh::\

Apparently the weather was good, il ask my former colleague who is out in mog at the moment.

From what i understand the aircraft overflew the runway to get a visual, he came in a no of times at very precarious angles and then disapeared over mog.

Fire engines and other emergency vehicles were on the pan

One question The time off accident 1930 Its dark no runway lights.
As from the last 20 years. NOTAMS?
Second question your alternate ??? Its not next door!!
Lets talk about if you do this flight What is your fuel load?
or Your alternate.
How I can see this is cheap operation with crew going for the Yes boss bit.

A Tristar Air Airbus A300-B4, registration SU-BMZ performing freight flight TSY-810 from Oostende (Belgium) to Mogadishu (Somalia) via Cairo (Egypt) with 6 crew and 40 tons of perishables (frozen food supplies packaged with carbon dioxide) on behalf of United Nations, was forced to land about 12nm northwest of Mogadishu Airport in an open field between Afgoye and Arbiska villages at about 19:00L (16:00Z). Two occupants received minor injuries in the landing, the aircraft sustained substantial damage beyond economic repair.

Somali Authorities reported the aircraft had attempted several approaches to Mogadishu Airport but had gone around each time. The aircraft subsequently performed a forced landing off the airport in a government controlled area between Afgoye and Arbiska, about 12nm northwest of Mogadishu airport. Two of the six occupants received minor injuries and were taken to hospitals.

Local police reported the aircraft had suffered problems with the landing gear prompting the approaches to be aborted.

The weather manager at Mogadishu Airport reported, the airport is officially closed from 18:00L to 06:00L (15:00Z to 03:00Z), the aircraft arrived after sunset, was unable to land, could not divert and ran out of fuel.

A listener on frequency reported that the aircraft overflew the aerodrome just prior to 15:00Z and joined a right downwind for runway 05 (over the Ocean), but on short final went around reporting the approach had become unstable. During the go around incoherent vectors were issued by tower, the aircraft joined another right hand downwind and final for runway 05 but reported they could not see the runway, the aerodrome appeared to their left and requested vectors to join the extended centerline but received vectors to the right and went around a second time. The crew advised that they were no longer able to divert having cut into the diversion fuel during that second approach advising they had now 6000kg of fuel left. Tower instructed the crew to join another right downwind for runway 05, the crew refused and joined a left downwind for runway 23. After the aircraft had joined final for runway 23 tower advised they were approaching runway 23, they were forbidden to land on runway 23, and did not issue landing clearance resulting in the third go around. Tower instructed them to join another right hand downwind for runway 05 issuing vectors to the right, the crew advised they had 4000kg of fuel left, the fourth approach to runway 05 failed, 2000kg of fuel left, the aircraft received vectors taking it far to the north for a downwind to runway 05, the crew advised they had just 400 kg of fuel left, tower instructed to not overfly the village, another voice appeared on the tower frequency trying to assist, an engine flamed out, 200 kg of fuel remaining, the second engine flamed out and the crew put the aircraft down on the next free spot visible at about 16:00Z.

The airport had been damaged by a Tsunami in 2007, in 2010 the United Nations called for a tender to supply runway lights and according to media reports contracted solar/battery powered LED runway edge and threshold lighting systems as well as a solar/battery powered LED APAPI approach guidance lighting system, all of which by specification are capable to ensure 24/7 operation. There is no indication Mogadishu Airport has approach lights or precision approaches. The airport offers a runway 05/23 of 3220 meters/10,560 feet length.

Aeronautical information received by The Aviation Herald on Oct 16th 2015 suggests supported by the video as referenced to below, too, that aircraft destined for Mogadishu have to maintain 6000 feet or above until overflying the Aerodrome (MG VOR/MG NDB), join a right downwind to runway 05 over the Ocean descending to 1500 feet on downwind and join a short final no farther than 1.5nm from the threshold. In 2011 the information provided by Somalia's Civil Aviation Authority also defined a left hand traffic pattern to runway 23 also requiring to cross over the VOR/NDB at 6000 feet or above, join the downwind over the Ocean descending to pattern height and join final (no restriction on length of final mentioned). No more recent document is available (any reader having more recent documentation issued by SCAMA, Civil Aviation Authority of Somalia, please tell us via the contact page below). Currently available aeronautical information posted below.

According to information from pilots the runway lighting is not operative, runway 23 is not available for landings due to security concerns, all landings have to occur on runway 05. According to a document received by The Aviation Herald above the surface runway edge lights do exist however and restrict the turn radius available for aircraft needing to do 180s on the runway.

No weather data are available, both weather stations at the airport (METARs) and local weather station were offline, METARs produced only NIL messages. On Oct 12th 2015 sunset was at 17:47L (14:47Z).

Only NOTAM active on Oct 12th 2015:
A0006/15 - OPERATORS SHOULD EXER EXTREME CTN AND FULLY ASSESS THE POTENIAL FOR RISKS TO FLT SAFETY AND SECURITY WHEN PLANNING OR CONDUCTING
OPS INTO MOGADISHU AIRPORT DUE TO LACK OF INFORMATION ON ARMED CONFLICT AND THE LACK OF AERONAUTICAL INFORMATION. 27 FEB 13:30 2015 UNTIL 26 FEB 23:59 2016 ESTIMATED. CREATED: 27 FEB 14:11 2015

NOTAM added on Oct 15th 2015, 3 days past accident:
A0037/15 - AFIS IS PROVIDED AT MOGADISHU ADEN ADDE INTL AP CMA FLIGHT INFORMATION ZONE RADIUS 15NM FM PSN 020048N0451818E CMA LOWER LIMIT GND/SFC UPPER LIMITS 3000FT AMSL CMA AD ELEVATION 030FT AMSL CMA CALLSIGN MOGADISHU AERODROME INFORMATION FREQ 118.1MHZ CMA HRS OF OPS 0315-1500UTC DAILY. 15 OCT 09:15 2015 UNTIL PERM. CREATED: 15 OCT 09:19 2015

Accident: Tristar A30B at Mogadishu on Oct 12th 2015, forced landing off airport

Hats off to these guys, well into final reserve and still taking care of "not overflying the village" or accepting refused landing clearance by ATC.

Sarcasm off, the aircraft does look in quite good shape after what it seems was a dead stick landing.

That report is not too far off the truth, more approaches were made than reported and it is correct about the vectoring being wrong from the tower.
actually the truth is that there was no tower present. it was a ground ops guy on the radio. the fuel figures are slightly off aswell, but not by much. The captain reported 2000 kg aswell. the radio controller at point tried to vector the aircraft onto a compound.


there is a lot more to this story than meets the eye.


there was a NOTAM and PPR allocated to the aircraft and the metars were also issued.


The aircraft called into the tower from Addis airspace and was given permission for the late landing.

Bet it wasn't that crew's first night landing at that airport. Something in the 'other arrangements' probably broke down.

The airport has been under massive construction, and I think they had started some limited night ops this past summer.

Thanks 750XL, interesting but something still does not add up. A quick search for B4 weights:

EOW 79 000 kg (174 200 lb)
MZFW 130 000 kg (286 600 lb)
MTOW 170 500 kg (375 900 lb)
MLW 140 000 kg (308 600 lb)

What were they doing there with just six tons left sloshing in the tank ?

I never flew the B4 but I did fly the -605r and those weights look like the ones for the latter.

I think you'll find that what you flew was the A300B4-605R, so you're both right. :O

Very true Davd Reid,. The following link has sime usful numbers on it for B4 weights fuel burns etc.
Brinkley's Cargo Freighter Specifications - A300B4-200F

Simon just put up a summary of the preliminary report: Accident: Tristar A30B at Mogadishu on Oct 12th 2015, forced landing off airport

A series of gross errors, but would only quote one sentence:

Good grief! This reads more like a bad movie scrip than an accident report....

See Fresher Details over at AVH
 

Just finished reading and extended report about this event at AVH. Oh My God!! If something could go wrong, it did. I do not often say this - or need to - but I think those pilots were idiots. As several commenters reminded us, may accidents can be prevented BEFORE the AC ever leaves the ground. This is one such case, I am sure. The list of screw ups by pilots, ground and tower personnel, everyone involved, is beyond belief. :eek:

At least someone had an ounce of common sense.