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750XL 29th Jul 2015 18:03

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Cathay Pacific Airliner Makes Emergency Landing in Aleutians

LOS ANGELES — Jul 29, 2015, 11:48 AM ET



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A Cathay Pacific Boeing 777 bound from Hong Kong to Los Angeles International Airport has diverted to a U.S. air base in the Aleutian Islands after smoke was detected on the aircraft.
Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Ian Gregor says Flight 884 declared an emergency and landed early Wednesday morning at Eareckson Air Station in Shemya, Alaska.
Cathay Pacific in a statement said flight CX884 made a precautionary diversion when the crew detected smoke in the jet.
The Boeing 777-300ER landed safely with 276 passengers and 18 crew.
Shemya Island is at the western tip of the Aleutians. The base has a 10,000-foot runway.
An American Airlines jet traveling from Dallas-Fort Worth to Tokyo made an emergency landing there in July 2010 after a fire warning light malfunctioned.


Noticed this before and was curious as to how you handle a 777-300 with just shy of 300 on board, at an airport on an island with less than 180 active military personnel there?

Looking at Googlemaps, it doesn't look like there's even room to manoeuvre a 777, let alone the facilities to handle it?

chucko 29th Jul 2015 18:28

Shemya used to be a base for RC-135s (maybe it still is, don't know), so there's room for a 777. Once stopped there on a Reeve Electra during the Cold War - photography verboten, and keep the window shades down.

Airbubba 29th Jul 2015 19:00

From I Dream of Jeannie (1965):


The Aleutians? Sir, I've been to the Aleutians.
I wouldn't send my worst enemy to the Aleutians.
I Dream of Jeannie (1965) s02e14 Episode Script | SS

After a couple decades of flying the NOPAC, I think I've been able to see Shemya perhaps three times, it is usually covered in clouds.

Remember the old pre-GPS 'abeam Shemya' check? Some said it was introduced as a result of the KAL 007 shootdown and early INS systems that would sequence waypoints even when well off course.

I'm sure that even earlier you would check abeam any navaid you could find on an overwater route.

Spooky 2 29th Jul 2015 19:22

Delta put a MD11 in there back in the mid 90's. No problems and they even had a tow bar for the KC10 that worked.

vmandr 29th Jul 2015 19:23

just left c.a. 1915 UTC towards Alaska ;)

Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker!

misd-agin 29th Jul 2015 22:04

AA had a 777 divert there. Enroute they were updated about a NOTAM describing half the runway was closed for WIP(work in progress). No problem since it was more than long enough.


At some point, much closer, they were informed that half was closed down...laterally. Full length was available, just narrow.


75' wide. Width of the gear is approx. 40', leaving 17.5' on both sides.

Airbubba 29th Jul 2015 23:09


AA had a 777 divert there. Enroute they were updated about a NOTAM describing half the runway was closed for WIP(work in progress). No problem since it was more than long enough.
Half of a 10,000 foot long runway more than long enough for a Triple? :confused:

Must have been a Navy pilot. :ok:

SaturnV 29th Jul 2015 23:37

Landed Anchorage 2:02PM Alaska time.

misd-agin 30th Jul 2015 00:58

Airbubba - required landing distance is 5000' at 436,000 lbs.


Landing roll at MLW is approx. 3600' w/max braking.


Aimpoint, airspeed.

Airbubba 30th Jul 2015 03:52


Airbubba - required landing distance is 5000' at 436,000 lbs.
Thanks for the numbers, like I said. ;)

I always got a little nervous watching 777's operate off the 'B' runway at NRT before it was lengthened. It was 7152 feet long before the farmer died or moved.

wideman 30th Jul 2015 13:41

Video made by a passenger as they first learn that there's a problem, then hear they might have to ditch, then instructed to put on the life vests, then told that they'll be landing on Shemya, and finally land. The tension is obvious as word of the possible ditching is first relayed, as is the relief when the passengers hear that they won't have to ditch (about 2:58).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KivHg...ature=youtu.be

SaturnV 30th Jul 2015 15:40

Substitute plane and fresh crew flown to Anchorage, and passengers now in LA.

https://twitter.com/eth_will

^^^^ Twitter has an image of CX884 doing a 180 at the end of the runway at Shemya, in very low cloud/fog, before departing.

Airbubba 30th Jul 2015 17:12


Twitter has an image of CX884 doing a 180 at the end of the runway at Shemya, in very low cloud/fog, before departing.
I was wondering if the 777 could turn around on the runway since the parallel taxiway doesn't go all the way to the end. I've often had PASY as an ETOPS alternate but hopefully will never land there.

One of the pictures on the Twitter link that you shared has a good picture of the 777 flaperon that is in the news on another thread.

JW411 30th Jul 2015 18:03

Which reminds me of a story of one of my mates who was trying to land at Billund in the middle of the night in a blinding snow storm. For those of you who do not know Billund, the runway is/was 27/09 and about 10,000 feet long.

The surface wind was somewhere around 350/30G35.

ATC greeted him with the news that they had managed to clear half of the runway for his arrival.

Rod got into the charts and figured that they could land quite happily in half the length and started an ILS approach.

He asked ATC which half they had cleared?

The northern half was the answer!

Now those of you who are real pilots will realise how this piece of information was received.

I don't have tell you that he managed just fine.

misd-agin 30th Jul 2015 18:05

Runway looks like it's 150' wide with 25' displayed shoulders on either side. Total of 200'.

misd-agin 30th Jul 2015 18:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KivHg...ature=youtu.be


Interesting video. Talks of the F/A's running through the cabin getting organized. Passengers told to don their life vests. It's dark outside.


Cooling fan in the cargo hold was reported as the source of the smoke. Wonder what the cockpit indications were? Cargo fire warning, with smoke in the cabin, would be a hair raising combination which might have been the trigger for the PA about donning life vests and the possibility of a ditching. Night ditching in the northern hemispheres is one of the worst events we talk about.


Looks like a nice job by the crew preparing for an event that ultimately was degraded.

Airbubba 30th Jul 2015 19:30


Runway looks like it's 150' wide with 25' displayed shoulders on either side. Total of 200'.
Thanks for pointing this out but can you legally taxi on those runway shoulders?

The PASY Jepp 11-1 page dated 5 JUL 13 just says the width is 150 feet. I've never heard of being able to use the shoulders to make a turn. Is this buried in the NOTAMS or DOD pubs somewhere perhaps? The 'shoulders' have the diagonal yellow hashes that tell me not to taxi there.

But, I can absolutely see what you are saying, the pavement looks exactly the same in the hashed area so maybe buried somewhere in my company issued tablet is a note saying it is OK.

The crazy part is hey, you're in the middle of nowhere, who cares, use the extra width to turn more safely on the wet runway. But, sure as anything, some fed's daughter is in the back recording video of the turn on her iPhone and will upload it to Facebook (and PPRuNe ;)) when she gets back. :ugh:

It does look like you could swing out over taxiway A (using 'judgmental oversteering' of course :)) to turn around for a departure on runway 28.

SaturnV 30th Jul 2015 19:40

airbubba, pix of the departure from Shemya where little can be seen out of the window, and in/from the terminal at Anchorage. I wondered if they were told, no photographing the installation at Shemya. :cool:

Feathered 30th Jul 2015 19:56

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Did the Cathay flight need to obtain any fuel or services? I'm curious how any services would be arranged, since typically the US military isn't setup to charge airlines, even when the base is run by contractors.

quadspeed 30th Jul 2015 21:09

Any aircraft crossing the Pacific has Shemya ready to go. On most nights it feels like a warm hand holding yours as you make your way across.


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